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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 72 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Libertarian in America just means a Republican who smokes dope and skips church.

I'm not a conspiracy guy, but if a billionaire invented a political philosophy that benefited himself, it'd look a whole lot like American libertarianism.

[–] edgarde@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That describes what the Koch brothers did to the Libertarian party.

[–] imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There are at least a few of us that hold to the old meaning

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Smokes dope, skips church, and ignores age-of-consent.

The latter was picked up by the mainstream parties platform.

[–] Krumm@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

That's some high quality snark. Excellent work.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)
[–] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Honestly there are so few examples of this being the case in the current day that you're probably better off just forgetting this fact to avoid confusion. It's kinda similar to how the Nazis labeled themselves as "Social Democrats" but by the time 1940 rolled around, if you so much as mentioned socialism or democracy around a Nazi official then the Gestapo would be at your doorstep within hours

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago

LPNH are nuts and a lot more fashy leaning than your typical libertarian. Iirc they encouraged beating BLM protestors while the national party supported BLM 100%

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The Libertarian National Committee expelled the LPNH earlier this year. They probably should have done it earlier, as the LPNH has a long history of outrageous public statements.

[–] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago

They were basically copy/pasting Russian state propaganda for several years before that. It was wild.

[–] CedricWhaley@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago

The Libertarians in New Hampshire are not dumb. We win all the time. We have a strategy that works. We know how to be team players.

Tell that to the bears, asshole.

[–] hoppeduponcoffee@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Libertarianism is the ideology of those with various conditions and states of mind, where empathetic and emotional reasoning is “divergent” from the norm.

I was libertarian for a minute, because weed and hookers sounded nice at the time, until it dawned on me, “Wait, you trust corporations in a consumeristic society to make ethical decisions without guardrails?”

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The establishment Dems have indisputably aligned with Libertarian values better than the GOP ever has.

Libertarians support the GOP more because, at least in America, they aren't actually fucking Libertarians. They're fascists + marijuana and gay marriage

[–] hoppeduponcoffee@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Listen, they’re willing to compromise on the gay marriage thing just as long as you get the fascism.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

The dirty little secret is Libertarians have always been a small pebble kick from fascism.

Their whole ideology is based in Social Darwinism

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

in America, they aren’t actually fucking Libertarians

Wait, do libertarians in other countries actually have a political ideology that's not completely stupid? Do they not want private roads and fire departments?

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I mean libertarians in the sense that their beliefs oppose authoritarian policy. Not any specific capitalist-libertarian ideology. Of which all are moronic.

[–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The people who want small government wants the government to kill the opposition... Which doesn't sound very small government.

[–] chewypoops@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They literally never wanted a small government. It was always just the excuse they used to attack a liberal government.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

They wanted "small governement"*.

*government that doesn't restrict them from doing whatever they want.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

Hey that's not fair, they want some rando to kill the opposition and the government to do nothing about it.

[–] MunkyNutts@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 13 points 6 days ago

Oh, they're a classy bunch

New Hampshire Libertarians tweet image of Zelensky with Hitler mustache

Also :

In another tweet from Aug. 26, which has since been deleted, the party wrote: “6 million dollar minimum wage or you’re antisemitic.”

Libertarians are just conservatives + weed - religion.

[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

To be fair, a libertarian would probably support the assassination of anything government related.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The "Libertarians of NH" com is run by Republicans, which is why they're advocating votes for Republicans rather than Libertarians.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If they were a real libertarian party New Hampshire might be a pretty good state to actually compete with the Republicans.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

New Hampshire has more Dems than GOP at this point. Harris beat Trump by 3-pts in 2024, when she was underwater in every other battleground state. The only reason Sununu has a chance at the Senate in 2026 is his last name (same reason Manchin was impervious to Republicans in West Virginia).

The Free State Project has been a joke since the Obama Era. Not only did Libertarians fail to flip the state, but Masshole Liberals have fully swamped whatever base of Libertarian support the state once had.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Sure. I'm saying the Libertarians could match the state sentiment and social environment better than the Republicans. Libertarianism is an easy philosophy to adopt if you hate taxes and believe in "personal responsibility" but don't want to be socially ostracized for the Republican's culture war/nanny state.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I’m saying the Libertarians could match the state sentiment and social environment better than the Republicans.

I think that's been empirically disproven

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

They're Libertarians, not libertarians.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Hey Lemmy.world TOS, when are we going to be allowed to say what needs to be done in response?

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

libertarians hate government

Not when a fascist is in government

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

So much for Live and Let Live.

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

GOP looks scared

[–] enterthepocket@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

The only support they need is free money. It's interesting how people with no balls interpret this information.