Let's explore this.
If we agree to entertain his lie for a moment, and the further implication that the people supposedly supplying her with drugs were responsible for her OD, doesn't that same logic make gun dealers responsible for shootings?
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*gasp*
Logic!
Get ‘em! [*crashing, yelling, trampling noises*]
Nah, guns don't kill people, just the bullets fired out of them kill. No one very died from a gun itself
Anyone beaten to death with the pistol grip or rifle stock would like to have a word with you.
Or stabbed by a bayonet
Is that the gun killing you tho? If it's affixed, does it count as the gun or just a knife kill?
Spear kill.
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Or the military personnel shot by misfiring pistols when they drop them.
And surely someone in history has been killed by knocking over a rack of guns and being clobbered.
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You don't need gun control. You know what you need? We need some bullet control.
Not quite in that form, but targeting restrictions on ammunition moreso than the guns themselves is part of my view on that issue. The country is full of guns already, they last practically forever with maintenance, and at the end of the day they're basically just a sturdy tube with some hardware to set the bullet off, and as such it would be difficult to stop illicit manufacturing (3d printed guns and zip guns come to mind). Bullets are at least consumable, require explosive chemicals to make and a gun won't fire without them. If you make it difficult to acquire large amounts at once, then it doesn't matter as much if a gun is modified to be fully automatic either.
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Let's not bother, not only do they don't care about hypocrisy, double speak is actually their superpower
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Blaming Mexicans as a people for the acts of a few? Monstrous and inane. Not a rational thought process for a healthy individual
Stealing drugs from your patients? Monstrous but sympathy-worthy. Opiate addiction is life ruining, and I blame pharmaceutical companies and bodily destructive American work culture for this. I hope she has stayed far away from the medical field since then, for her benefit and for everyone else’s.
Lying about one to cover up the other in order to renew a race war? Just evil.
How is a care provider stealing medication from patients sympathy-worthy? That situation is way worse than someone just stealing drugs because a care provider has legal and ethical obligations to care for a patient.
I think it's sympathy worthy because of the fact she wasn't doing it to spite her patients. She was doing it because she was suffering from an addiction, and addiction makes people do things that they wouldn't normally do.
So it's humanizing his mother and saying she was someone who was caught up in something that was too big for her to control and that is sad.
That doesn't excuse the fact that she raised a piece of shit child, or that she hurt people from her addiction. It just sets all of that to the side to focus on the one specific thing that someone with empathy can sympathize over.
As someone who grew up with a sibling who became an addict, leading them from being just a regular asshole to being downright abusive on top of all of the theft, volatility, and other drug-related issues....
Yeah. Still, it took me some 15 years or so to reach that line of relative forgiveness.
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Because it’s driven by intense desperation. You don’t help addicts by ambushing them, you help them by understanding what’s caused them to be the way that they are and how to break their system of dependence. You can’t advance as a society without being able to break unhealthy cycles. So yes, monstrous but sympathy-worthy
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That's some real hillbilly shit right there.
Come listen to my story 'bout a man named Jd
Some say his love for couches was strong, some say his lust for couches was strong, the only thing that is certain is he's fucked a sofa or two.
The song needs to be an elegy.
"If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering [I just made up and is not the reality] of the American people [because, again, – and I cannot stress this enough – I created it and it did not actually happen], then that's what I'm going to do."
To be fair, I suspect he’s talking about the heroin after she was fired from her nursing job for stealing drugs.
But her addiction is what almost killed her. The (dubious) nationality of the dealers is irrelevant.
Don't MAGA believe all drug users are criminals?
She's a heroin user and get her ass locked up.
Lucky she's not in El Salvador right now.
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Why would you be fair?
Because with morons we are dealing with if they can find one flaw they won’t believe any part of a logically laid out argument.
JD Vance is popular because to stupid insecure men he seems like at the very least an awkward social person, yet they think in a debate he is a “bulldog” that goes after the “facts”.
TLDR: they suck so bad they don’t even know they suck and why
He grew up in Middletown, Ohio. Even if she hadn't been stealing drugs from patients, I know the drug scene there well enough to know plenty of dealers are white. But also the opiate epidemic in the rust belt wasn't some cartel thing, it's simple: the jobs left, nobody had any hope left, and suddenly that injury you got from doing manual labor for years wound up with this new painkiller the doctor was told isn't addictive.
James Donald Bowman is a sad excuse for a human being. I will always remind people of his real name he got from his deadbeat father and the mother he's slandering here. Just to cuck for another asshole named Donald.
Join me in deadnaming him!
If she was that desperate, odds are good she sucked a few dicks for drugs, too. Surely not news to him, those trailer walls are thin.
That would probably happen after she got caught stealing from patients. Which he may have still been around for--I don't know the details.
I found the full story here https://crooksandliars.com/2024/07/jd-vance-called-out-over-lie-about-his
Um, well, did she steal them from Mexican patients?
No.
Checkmate liberawls!
I'm just saying. She could have totally stole them from Mexicans.
Which would technically not be a lie.
Politician lying?! That's unpossible!
Okay, but you can't say that during an election because it's rude and divisive. You're not taking the problem of illegal Mexicans trafficking in double plus illegal drugs seriously, and you shouldn't denigrate a rich man's mother.
If this is satire, it's written too close to the bone.
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if your mom is stealing medication, which it sounds like from a hospital and using it on herself, with no proper diagnosis/condition, its ON HER if she almost dies from it.
Just Dunce Vance is a big fat liar, who could have seen this coming.
FYI, fentanyl is used in US hospitals as the cheapest opiate. Excess OD deaths from fentanyl tend are only ever caused by it being "accidentally present" in another drug. Paying the Taliban to grow opium for US export (they can still prevent local sales) could be a viable path to affordable US healthcare without fentanyl. Much US supply of fentanyl is stolen from legal hospital supplies.
If there was a real national emergency for fentanyl from Canada, a war on hospitals providing 100x the fentanyl that is seized on Canadian border to tax them an extra 25% is going to get them back to using morphine/oxy whatever that costs.
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Remember when Republicans got mad at politicians lying to them? "Read my lips, no new taxes"
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