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[–] keyez@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

I'm probably gonna get an Ioniq 6 or 5 in a year or two, those are very affordable and have actual buttons and switches.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

I don't honestly think the US has the technical ability anymore. The US doesn't really make much and hasn't since the seventies. That's a long time. How much of a Ford is actually made in the US? Shoot, how much is designed in the US?

Best they could do would be buy the parts, maybe make the frame, paint it and assemble. Don't make batteries, don't make screens, or chips, or leds or much of nothing.

[–] Donk240978@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 hours ago

There won't be flying cars until Autonomous Vehicles have a perfect self driving score.

Joe Average Potata-brain can't drive as it is. Now they want to add the extra chaos of multiple tons of debris falling from the sky after minor crash bends one of the stabilizer ports out of alignment?

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 39 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No, we need more rail. Enough with cars.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 22 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] 13igtyme@startrek.website 3 points 3 hours ago

I'd take more Heavy rail, light rail, bike lanes, better city layouts, AND cheap electric cars.

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 28 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I walked past a Tesla showroom recently and they had one car on the floor that they still sell, one that they haven't sold in decades, a frame to a car that's out of production, and a robot they still don't produce. They used to have more cars out then they stopped producing them. The stock is still high somehow.

[–] MagicPterodactyl@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The original roadster is still so cool to me. I wish a small relatively light ev sports car was sold in the US. I don't want a barge with 800 HP I'd much rather have something nimble with a quarter of the power.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There was very little original with the roadtser. The chassis is just a Lotus Elise that they stuffed an EV drivetrain into.

And there are some small ones. The Kia EV3 is 201hp and under 30k.

[–] MagicPterodactyl@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Yeah I know and that's exactly why it was good, because the elise already had an incredible sports car chassis.

The EV3 seems like a fine commuter but is certainly not a sports car in weight, shape, chassis, or suspension. It's just another compact crossover, seemingly a good one, but not really what I'm talking about. In the US the closest thing is probably the Mini Cooper SE, but it's still heavier and less powerful than the original roadster.

Imagine if Mazda made an mx-5 EV or Toyota made an 86 EV.

[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 12 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

No shit. I feel like this company has enough money they could produce a $10k Electric car that is basically sold at cost.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Tesla refuses to even develop a compact 20k car they could sell at a profit. Instead the new developments focus on wankpanzers and sports cars with party tricks.

[–] MagicPterodactyl@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I think it's because they know they can't compete with quality or specs at the low end. They'd much rather get customers with gimmicks and "controversial" aesthetics. Chinese cars would eat anything they could build for that price for breakfast but even legacy brands like Hyundai and VW have been able to make good EVs far cheaper than Tesla.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Well, if Hyundai, Kia, VW, Renault and others can compete on reasonably priced compact cars, Tesla should be able to do so too. They do not only produce in the US after all. If they can't that would be just an admission that their future is that of a niche highend producer. But for that, they are a bit too cheap on the inside.

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[–] nanometer1625@thelemmy.club 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

I was checking out used 2023 EVs recently, and some models were in the low 20 kUSD range. Accounting for inflation, that's less than I paid when I bought my used ICE car (17 kUSD) in 2014. The main detractor for me is that level 3 chargers degrade the batteries, and as a renter, I don't have a place to charge at home. But if you own a home and can charge an EV there, there's really no reason to buy an ICE car these days if you just want a commuter vehicle.

I live in the US and I would love to buy an electric vespa-style scooter that can do 45 mph. They are virtually non-existent here (there is something called the Aventura-X which costs $5000). Even if I could get one, there are no places around that could service it. And it's not like I live in rural South Dakota or anything - I live in a Philly suburb.

[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

My understanding is the level 3 battery degradation is overstated, and even with heavy use, the battery will stay in pretty good shape.

-an EV owner

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

Agreed. From what I've looked up, it's going outside of 20ish-80ish% charge frequently that's degrading the batteries quickly. Or fully charging and then leaving out in the hot sun.

[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 56 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 hours ago
[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

The demo had to be AI slop.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

It's supposedly not, but even then, why should we give a shit about this stupid demo? They basically dressed a SpaceX rocket up like a car. That's it.

None of what is shown here is ever, and yes, I absolutely mean EVER, going to make it into a production car. Why? I can boil it down to 3 reasons.

  1. It would be unsafe as shit for any car to have the capability of doing any of this. I'm sure everyone here can agree that most drivers are fucking stupid and are a danger to everyone around them. Now give them the ability to drive like they're in fucking GTA.

  2. It's expensive as shit.

  3. Most importantly. It is fucking impractical and stupid. Not only is most of the space in the car wasted on rocket parts. How much energy does it take to do something like this? How much energy is stored in a Tesla battery? Anything short of a small nuclear reactor inside the car, would make the ability to do this, at best, impractical. It's just so unfathomably retarded to want a car that can do this, because it shows a basic lack of understanding of the laws of physics.

This is a media stunt, made by the biggest egotistical piece of shit in history, nothing more.

[–] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Some points:

Falling is not the same as flying

The car, by the looks of it, is probably just a very lightweight body with some thrusters and gyroscopes. Meaning, it's not a full car like we're used to, but rather just a plastic replica made specifically for this demo. Add some thrusters, make sure it looks ok. There you go.

Do we trust the company that pretended to have fully autonomous robots that were clearly being piloted backstage? The company that has lied about 'self-driving technology' for decades, which has already killed dozens of people because it's complete dogshit at what it does.

I don't feel inclined to believe them here either lol

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I was fully convinced this was the case but I think they might have actually done it for some reason. There's no fucking way that you'll be able to buy a car that does what they did in the demo. I think it's safe to assume the car that flew doesn't have a full sized battery and was probably missing some of the other heavier components. It's really fucking stupid but I think that car actually did all that crap.

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