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[–] islandcoda42@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 hours ago

Pretty much, yup :(

[–] ruby@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 11 hours ago

thanks to the modern economics, it's not like there's many parties anyway and a drink in a bar costs more than my food for the whole day. plus we let big tech psychos convince us that the paid online dating trap is the way to go. the only people that cold approach me are street shysters and crackheads in the train station, and i like to be left alone in public, so i assume everyone else does too. you're probably out because you have stuff to do and not just walking around aimlessly, right?

then everyone in college already has their friend group, barging in feels like intruding. if you find someone you have stuff in common with and you don't have mainstream social media, you're likely dead to them. then you start a job and get locked in an office cubicle forever.

if you choose to play anyway, make sure you're not homosexual, or heavens forbid, trans or asexual. you'd be playing the game on hardmode!

[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] XiJinpingStanAccount@lemmy.ml 8 points 13 hours ago

I'm the type who when I'm not in a relationship long enough I start to think maybe I want one, but then I remember what it's like to be in one, and remind myself not to be so delusional. I'm very much happier being 'alone'. Not that I'm actually alone. I have non-romantic relationships. I will admit having two incomes would be nice tho.

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world 178 points 1 day ago (21 children)

Hey, I was raised on the premise that women want to be left alone and be independent which taught me that there is no environment or time where an approach would be appreciated. In return I assumed that in time and when ready, they would be the ones to initiate. Guess they really haven't held up their end of the bargain. Or maybe I'm just a dumb fool for assuming that.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 hours ago

When they say they want to dismantle gender roles, they only mean the gender roles that they perceive as disadvantageous for them. They still want men to perform the gender roles that are disadvantageous for men.

Taking the risk of making the first move is just one example. They don't want that responsibility, they just want guys who aren't attractive to them to stop trying to make a first move. Might as well rephrase it as "Just give up, loser. No one will ever love you" because that's basically the sentiment that's hiding behind "stop approaching women," especially when it's followed up with something like "why won't men notice me?"

[–] liuther9@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That's a lie. You never know a result of approaching. She might be not in mood or crazy or friendly. You are not doing bad things by approaching. You are not r aping her. Just approach and if you don't like her personality back off

[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

You are not doing bad things by approaching.

I thing you and I have vastly different experiences with rejection.

[–] underscores@lemmy.zip 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I may be getting downvoted for this but women do want to be approached, you just have to have 400 IQ and make it work.

As an autistic person I already fail because I cannot read their expressions, but some women will do things like touch your forearms or smile a lot at you. These signals like any other needs careful thinking because some women just like to play and flirt.

Women in 2026 do not want to feel like they're being preyed on, having a welcoming but safe body language is an extremely difficult game.

I think our societal norms for dating will shift as no one likes the dating apps, who knows what's next.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

If you're autistic and you fail at reading facial expressions, study them, academically. Like, find papers on this, read up on it.

Its more to do with microexpressions and minor details, and the underlying mechanisms of anatomy and how emotions affect the human body.

Think of the difference between a real smile, where the upper cheeks and lower/outer eyes shift upward along with the smile, vs a fake/forced smile that only involves the mouth.

Think about how a major difference between dogs and wolves is that dogs, as our human partners, literally evolved more eyebrow muscles to be able to communicate their emotional state to us more effectively.

Its not that you can't read expressions, its that your model for doing so is wrong, its too simplistic.

You don't need a 400 IQ, you just need patience and humility. Its not a one size fits all perfect rule set that works 100% the same on every different person, but we are all human, with fundamentally the same basic anatomy and physiological wiring.

[–] underscores@lemmy.zip 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, I'm full on defensive and guarded until very clear words are said

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago

I mean, absolutely fair, I'm just trying to say this is a thing you can study independently, and then when you're ready, have as a kind of improved toolset for evaluating social interactions.

Though I also totally understand just being fucking traumatized by normies seemingly expecting you to read their minds and then getting angry at you for not being able to do so.

I'm autistic too, it has been a struggle, lol.

Not trying to pressure you into more immediate, complex social interactions, no, not if you are not comfortable with that.

I'm saying its a thing you can read up on, alone, independent study kind of thing. Gradually, eventually useful, when you are ready.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 55 points 1 day ago (15 children)

You don't have any women in your friend group? Most relationships are with people who start out as friends-of-friends that grow closer during social interactions over time.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

The women I had had in a friend group like that, that I'd known since childhood, got married and/or a demanding career, and then stopped having time to talk or do anything social.

And they don't even have kids, life is still just too demanding for a social life to also exist.

And and, I am realtively odd in that I am a guy who grew up with more female close friends than male friends, who got invited to the otherwise girls-only Buffy/Firefly/etc semi-regular watch nights.

But your whole reply here is a non sequitir...

...he's saying that women broadly, you know, women he doesn't already know, loudly said "don't approach us", so, he didn't.

Combine that with late stage capitalism is utterly exhausting, for everyone, and ... women broadly put the burden on themselves to initiate any new relationships with new men, and then did not initiate any new platonic relationships with new men.

Your reply is 'wait you just don't already know a bunch of women?' Yes, obviously, duh, its inherent in the premise of their statement, in the context of the post.

The whole thing at discussion here is meeting new people. Your answer is 'what, you don't just already know people?'

This is an antagonistically useless thing to say.

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[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You don't have any women in your friend group?

I do, but they’re all in long term relationships.

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[–] tpyoman@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What makes you think I have friends if I don't leave home.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

Spiders and stray cats count

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Friends are much like vampires. They cannot cross the boundaries of your dwelling unless invited in.

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[–] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone 67 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My partner of 16 years basically told a mutual friend that she liked me and then the friend did all the logistical stuff.

[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 10 points 13 hours ago
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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm not going to make another person suffer through a relationship with me. I'm horrrible and very difficult to be with!

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 22 points 20 hours ago

See there's the mistake. You're capable of enough self analysis to understand you're flawed. Like 60% of people just aren't capable of that and are actual shit.

[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm a parent.

Kids activities are awash with lonely single parents.

[–] boobookittyfrick@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Oh nice so all I need is to find a kid

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