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[–] cazssiew@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Hate to break it to you but the same is true in France. Media coverage here has focused almost exclusively on small shops being looted. The human brain has a much easier time focusing on individual tragedies rather than systemic issues, and the government and its cronies (and the local versions of fox news) are taking full advantage of that bias.

[–] menas@lemmy.wtf 11 points 1 day ago

Less a "human brain" focus than a main media focus

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

Exactly? People get a lot of shit here in europe too but you still do it. Thats exactly the point of a protest, to raise awareness

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

Well yeah liberals value property more than human life. That's been true for all of liberalism. I'd say it's the core tenet of liberalism. For liberalism private property is the most sacred belief they have.

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[–] j_elgato@leminal.space 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Knock off all this fascism! Seriously, don't make us slowly walk around downtown in a slowly circle again...

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 23 hours ago

It is one of the more proven methods to onramp liberals to leftism, at any rate.

[–] Jaberw0cky@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My problem with rioting is it often seems to be the working class shitting on their own doorstep.. surely the most effective rioting would be to target parliament buildings, political party offices, banks and the properties of the very wealthy? Just my twopenn'orth.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is why riots without organization are just as ignorable as nonviolent protests without organization. Neither threaten the power of the state because there is no power in individual acts.

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We need more tractors with slurry wagons spraying the houses of politicians.

[–] zoloftt@lemmy.world 96 points 1 day ago (32 children)

Always with the "liberals".

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

"liberal" here, smash that storefront for me I have to go to work thanks 👍

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, exactly which liberals are we talking about? Maga? This shit is beyond moronic.

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[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 37 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Usually for posts like these I assume they're talking about the unfortunately large group of milquetoast left-leaning Americans who think the system destroying their livelihoods can be reasoned with, as if the people stepping on our necks are just unaware of their actions, and would feel really bad if we wrote them a letter explaining the situation. They're certainly better than the neck-steppers themselves, but neither will ever actually fight to improve the situation we're in.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

I'd be fine with burning down the government buildings and harassing politicians who're responsible for the problems. I don't see a point in destroying regular people's jobs or the places they're going to purchase the things they need. It's not going to get people on your side.

[–] anewfox@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

yeah this meme is being intentionally dishonest. nobody is upset about a fucking fast food chain burning down.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 18 hours ago

If it was one of the 3 that are close enough to my job to get lunch I'd be a little pissed.

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[–] Pratai@piefed.ca 17 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Americana’s will only do shit that doesn’t inconvenience them. Which pretty much rules out any and all meaningful protest. They’ll gather in streets, sure. But the moment it comes at a cost- they’re far too busy.

This happens because they slept. And it got worse because they refused to wake up.

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[–] LeftReddit2@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

They should make him eat there

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The 2020 BLM protests were hardly some small, isolated incident involving a little property damage. The unrest caused more than $2 billion in insured property losses across the United States, making it the costliest civil-disorder event in U.S. insurance history at the time. The unrest spread across more than 20 states and affected communities nationwide. Whatever your political position, pretending the damage was trivial or that this was some minor, localized event is simply ignoring the facts. That doesn't mean every protester was violent or that every demonstration was destructive, but the scale and financial cost of the unrest were substantial.

Despite the scale of the 2020 BLM protests, the long-term results were mixed at best. They generated enormous public attention and prompted some policy changes, but they did not fundamentally transform the American political system or eliminate the racial inequalities that motivated the movement. In many respects, the country remains deeply divided, and racial hostility has become increasingly visible in our political discourse. Under the current administration, rhetoric surrounding race and immigration has only intensified those divisions. For all the protests, all the disruption, and all the money lost to property damage, the question remains: how much has actually changed for the better?

This is exactly why memes like this are counterproductive. Rather than encourage an honest discussion about what happened, what it cost, and what the consequences were, they reduce complicated events to simplistic narratives designed to provoke anger and deepen divisions. Presenting misleading information to reinforce an existing political bias is propaganda, regardless of which side does it. It is the same kind of divisive political messaging that the current administration routinely uses to mobilize its supporters and discredit its opponents. When we substitute outrage and misinformation for facts, we make meaningful discussion impossible. That is a significant part of how we arrived at our current political climate, and continuing to circulate this material without questioning its accuracy only makes the problem worse.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago

Measuring BLM in terms of insured property damage is probably a poor way to approach a movement addressing systemic bias and social awareness. It at least runs afoul of something to:

reduce complicated events to simplistic narratives

The impacts of BLM have been met with counteraction, which is neither new or unexpected, and no meme is going to be able to fully address a complicated anything.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Two billion across the whole country isn't all that much, especially considering how bonkers property evaluations are.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

Compared to anual damages caused by climate change 2 billion is relatively small too. And the gap will widen every passing year, but that doesn't bother the majority.

[–] SmileyRiley@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

I think other replies describe why this is a terrible approach to looking at a movement, but you mentioned insured property loses and I couldnt help but wonder if the protests actually did any damage to insurance companies (unfortunately they didnt take even a dime).

Private U.S. property/casualty insurers’ made more in 2020 than 2019 in net underwriting gains (difference between net premiums and any claims and other insurance-related expenses)

$5.1 billion of net underwriting gains in 2020 compare to $3.7 billion of net underwriting gains a year earlier

https://www.verisk.com/490445/siteassets/media/downloads/insuranceresultsreport2020fullyear.pdf

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[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 48 points 1 day ago (14 children)

To be fair, I've never met someone who doesn't either support or denounce violent protests in general - French or otherwise. This sounds like someone getting angry at the internet as a whole, without seeming to understand that it's made up of so many different people that it simultaneously holds all possible viewpoints at the same time.

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I feel like the most effective form of protest will make life miserable for the people causing the problems, rather than making life miserable for the people affected by the problem.

I'm not really thinking about the protests in France, though. I'm thinking about all the times in my area when highways have been shut down by people wanting police reform, and it feels like nothing has changed. Granted, when this was happening on a nationwide basis, we got body cams for most police departments, and that's created a lot of accountability.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

I wish people would realize that the ability to protest is directly tied to social safety net.

You get beaten by a cop, you will get free healthcare that is not directly tied to your job. In the US, if you do have healthcare, it is tied to your job and your job can fire you for protesting if they want (unlike France we have no protection for being fired for political opinion).

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