Most people don’t even want that, they just want to bitch and keep their daily routine. Which includes finding stuff to bitch about from behind a screen.
this post was submitted on 20 Oct 2026
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The most effective form of protest workers have against owners requires no violence at all: It's strikes, ideally a general strike. The economic damages from even one week of half of the country's workers refusing to work would force the wealthiest permille to make concessions.
The principal problem people in the USA have is that your hyperindividualism prevents you from developing a class consciousness with your fellow workers. Most of you are not joining unions to make them strong for collective bargaining, not standing in local elections against establishment candidates, not joining/creating local mutual self-help groups, and so on.
Of you just look at history at when the American system has reacted to protests with violence its always when it threatens the bottom line. So you would imagine this is the most impactful way to make a statement. Or just end up in the worst prison imaginable.
Oil pipelines, logistic networks, strikes. We have instilled dictactors and killed civilians in other countries to make sure we keep getting bananas because they had a strike. The only people who ever actually do anything are eco terrorists who threaten things like oil pipelines and there's a reason you never hear about them.
So you can poke the bear where it hurts but you have to be on a very special position to get away with it.
New lines of division just dropped! I totally voting for Trump now! /s I'm such a dumb lib or liberal or whatever!
straw man fallacy?
I mean it does generalize and probably isn't true upon close exam, but they are not wrong about how easy it was for "liberals" to suddenly have a problem with protest the second it got messy.
Though NIMBYs gonna NIMBY.
The only kind of protest that works in US is a silent protest. A prime example is the railway workers protest. They "derailed" the economy by billions of dollars and Byron signed an executive order to force them back to work. So face jail time or get back to work. Don't want to? Well straight to jail. Then with the thirteenth amendment you'll be back to work with a national guard member watching over you. If you think that's not likely to happen, you're new when it comes to US politics. Read about the expansion of the Patriot act the beloved Obama signed, I voted for him and canvassed, and protested McCain, that turned out well.
Violent and destructive protests don't happen much in red states because conservatives are mostly okay with looters valuing property more than their lives. Conservatives also value looters' lives less than their property.
Protest that doesn't disrupt is barely protest
GuYs dOn't bReAk mY TaRgEt
So there's this concept "agent provocateur".
It means the guy from the opposite side who throws the first stone as if he were on side he disagrees with.
The one who throws the first stone is the villain.
The reason why 60's era civil rights demonstrations were so successful is that no white person was able (or probably willing) to infiltrate the African American side to throw the first stone.
In a modern protest, plenty of people without any identifying group support any side, so someone just has to turn around throw a bottle onto their own side to start the violence.
If a chipotle is destroyed how would we ever replace it?!?!!
Is it possible the "Americans can't protest like the French" and "I don't like disruptive protests" camps are two entirely different groups of people?