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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hey, we got some troll baiting going on in this thread. Don't fall for it. If you start to feel angry, that's the point.

Go after the idea, not the user.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Houston, we have a problem

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If you think Greg Abbott isn't chomping at the bit to take over Houston municipal government and have all the local elected officials ejected, you haven't been paying attention to Texas politics in at least ten years.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

I haven't, I live very far from there. Just wanted to humorously throw in that famous quote

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[–] tyra@lemmy.ml 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It blows my mind how US americans just accept that they are having such a high murder rate at all. The murder rate in San Francisco is still too high, if you compare it with other nations and their cities. Considering how much surveillance and how much money their government pumps in the police system… you would think they finally would wake up and find out that all those measures are only in place to protect the capital of the ruling class and not the citizens…

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, the 32 of 827k population SF is pretty damn awful when compared to the 54 of 6m population Denmark or the 13 of 1.4m population Copenhagen..

One of a million pieces of data pointing at the fact that surveillance and law enforcement is NOT how you bring down crime.

[–] Blooper@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm going to make an educated guess at two big reasons as to why the US has a much higher murder rate compared to other wealthy nations: guns and income inequality.

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[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (9 children)

It blows my mind how US americans just accept that they are having such a high murder rate at all.

Genuine question (for you or anyone else with the same mentality): what would you do? Everyone on this website talks about how weird Americans are for just "being ok with everything going on" when in fact most of us aren't and have practically no ability to do anything about it that doesn't result in our own immediate death.

Besides, "amass enough capital (in a system designed to prevent you from amassing capital) to leave this shitty country", what would you actually do? Since it's mind blowing that we're not doing it and all...

(Sorry if this comes across as angry or directed at you, it's frustrating to live in a dumpster fire and read comments all day from people not in the dumpster fire implying that I'm just totally ok with said dumpster fire.)

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[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

Oh, some of us a are very aware. But theres not much we can do when living in a facist police state that has half the country raving mad about where people shit with their fearmongering propaganda.

[–] bort@piefed.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What’s the per capita rate?

[–] kiku@feddit.org 44 points 1 year ago

Looks like Houston is 11.5 and San Francisco is 4 per 100k.

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[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They specifically and frequently point out Houston is a “Democrat-run” city populated by Blacks; Their echo chamber is way ahead of you here and This would only reinforce their beliefs

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[–] relianceschool@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There's no such thing as a "Republican state," nearly every state is split somewhere between 51/49 and 60/40. There are "Republican-run states," but inside every Republican-run state is a "Democrat-run city" which has been a convenient narrative for Republicans of late. Houston's mayor is a Democrat, and Harris county has more registered Democrats than Republicans; in 2024 metro Houston voted for Kamala over Trump.

Whether Abbot or Whitmire is more to blame for Houston's violence is just a political distraction. Both bear some responsibility and I'm tired of both sides running finger-pointing narratives rather than trying to find constructive solutions.

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[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Could really see Newsom becoming president of the future New California Republic. Not saying I like that future. But I am starting to see it how it could come to pass

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It wouldn't be the New California Republic, the current state government is the California Republic. The Republic was more or less established after annexation.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You're right, I'm sure nothing would need to be changed.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d argue about per capita but nobody who sees this cares about that.

[–] Nelots@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean...

A population of 873,965 in San Fran vs 2,304,580 in Houston.

1 in ~25,000 people in San Fran get murdered vs 1 in ~7,150 people in Houston. That's ~3.5x higher. Per capita isn't helping much here.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not saying SF is more dangerous. I’m just saying people are idiots who don’t understand statistics. Which is what got us into this mess.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You are right to call it out.

OP is poorly presented. Murder rates should be presented at number per 100k.

Anything else is a shiti spin.

And yes that's how we got here to begin with.

When truth is on your side, why are these idiots adding unnecessary spin?

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 4 points 1 year ago

Truth has been on our side this whole time and it hasn't mattered an iota. So I don't care about making sure everything is laid out "just so" anymore. The 2-second walkaway is the win.

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[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 6 points 1 year ago

It's helping a lot

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did they really take artistic liberties to make the Bay Bridge coloration look like the Golden Gate?

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At least it has a picture that is somewhat recognizable, Houston just has a guy.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Behold the memorable skyline of Houston:

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The murder rate in the USA, for a supposed 1st World civilized country is fucking pathetic. Life is cheap in the USA. The labor laws and healthcare system stress out society and one has nothing to lose. Yes, the Red Run Oblasts have plenty of violent crime and gun related deaths.

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[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Seems to? That's their entire MO: lie about shit to make Republicans look less terrible at governing

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[–] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And I just went to look up the homicide numbers for Philly out of instinct. 262 last year.. Which is 36% less than the previous year. And still higher per capita than Houston.

Go birds!

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The unfortunate part about real life is that republicans just think democrats are lying about those numbers. They make up whatever stats they need in order to do what they want. Also, Houston has a democratic mayor. So they would probably blame him got the crimes.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Let's see, Houston has ~4X the population and ~10x the murders. So unless that equation is known to be non linear, that seems pretty bad Mr abbot

Mr abbot: who gives a fuck about brown people?!

[–] SwimmingInTheeStars@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What the hell is Abbott supposed to do about it? Send in the state guard?

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[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

The idea that a Democrat might have done wrong is more important than the reality that a Republican definitely did wrong.

[–] DrunkEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cars are actually a bigger threat than guns in San Francisco. There were 41 traffic fatalities last year, and on average traffic violence seriously injures 8 people each day. I suspect the situation is similar in Houston.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's called overreporting.

Make more than one report on the same one crime, so people will think it's multiple different crimes.

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