It’s not time to trust us. We still have a shitload of Dems who are basically part of the gop. Corporate dems are essentially republicans with favorable attitudes towards identity politics. These people are effectively part of the meta party which is comprised of people who are Neo liberals and believe in trickle down economics and the vaunting of corporations and the wealthy. They will do everything they can to keep the status quo and assist Trump as controlled opposition. Class war is first. Without cleaning up these people and addressing wealth and corporate person hood the U.S. will not change its trajectory.
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Why would anyone trust us? We elected Trump, elected someone else, and elected Trump again. We've already demonstrated that a good election or two is no reason to trust us. Gotta wait until we're actually rid of the rot
What are they even talking about? Tariffs are still there, EU passed laws that force countries to buy European weapons, they are finalizing a deal with Canada. Foreign policy is like a container ship, not a sports car. It took a lot of time to turn it around and it will not turn again anytime soon. The world is not going to just "trust America again". It will take years to sign new deals and pass new laws and it will start only when US shows they are willing to seat at the table and talk which won't happen in the next 2 years.
Also what has America done to gain trust? Votingnin blue is not even a beginning because it looks like they'll just maintain the status quo.
Can relate, don't trust the us and I live here.
Americans really only care about domestic stuff. We do not give a fuck about the rest of the world or our relationship to it. Do not trust us.
Sad but true. The average American could care less about anything outside their state for the most part, let alone outside the US. Even though, their vote affects what happens all over the world.
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If this were true, we would have healthcare. Unfortunately our government cares about international issues that we don't care about because its profitable.
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Trump’s still there.
If the democrats don’t prosecute him and every single one of his cronies, there is no reason to trust America ever again.
The people who voted for Trump are still there. That's all that actually matters.
They will vote for someone like him again. It's only a matter of when.
Nixon was never prosecuted why would Trump be? The us doesn't really do consequences for rich white men
Nixon was a bad precedent and never should have been pardoned.
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Please for the love of all that is good do not ever just trust us.
Make us fucking earn that trust, if you even want to entertain the idea.
Stop treating us like we are special, don't enable us... it will help us recover from this crippling 'American Exceptionalism' we have suffered from for so very long.
If gas were cheap right now the Republicans would still have won more seats. The average voter has a 1 month attention span and until that changes it's a coinflip of if America will be evil or not. We just have to hope the cards fall right for gas prices to be cheap when the dems are in I guess 🤷
Nor should they. Not until we've shown real, sustained change. Trump is still in charge and like 30-40% of the country are apparently irredeemably awful.
You'd have to be a fool to trust the US again based on this. Getting the democrats to actually make progress on anything is not usually a winning bet.
You'd be a fool to trust the US again for generations, regardless of appearances.
Oh, it’s going to take years, if not decades, to repair the damage dumbfuck has done.
It’ll never be repaired. Schedule F, gutting of all government agencies and mass exodus of career SMEs (various disciplines)…
There is no recourse for an “organization”. Turning civil servants into political appointees will never go back to the way it was with a simple regime change.
We are very much still fucked albeit, slightly less fucked.
Never is a long time. Germany systematically murdered thirteen million people in the forties. Obviously that does come up, but Germany largely rehabilitated its image by the 90s. Maybe earlier if we’re just talking West Germany.
I’m not saying with any certainty that the US will ever be as comfortable in the world as it previously was. But if people can get over the Holocaust in fifty years, I think the US has a puncher’s chance to sort things out.
The tricky part is that Germany was beaten in a war and had external forces standing over them forcing them to clean house. That's not going to happen to the US, so there's not going to be that sort of house-cleaning happening.
Yup. America hasn't even started the work to regain trust, yet here they are thinking their redemption arc has already started after one midterm election.
Prosecute, update your laws, spend a few more election cycles voting for people that care about their impact on something besides the wallets of themselves and their billionaire friends, and maybe in 10-15 years, we can start to talk about trust
Yeah. This is the abusive drunk standing outside the door declaring "I haven't had a drink all day, I've changed, baby!" And begging to be let back in.
Good on you for spending the day sober. I hope it's the start of a new life and fervently wish you well. Still not letting you back in.
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Nah, mate, this isn't enough, not even when you vote out Trump. You guys gotta clean up your corruption, actually punish the violators, and restore the institutions and policies they have destroyed, along with restitution to the victims, including the foreign ones.
Otherwise, why would we trust you not to do it all again?
Agreed. And I’m an American. It’s not the government. It’s the huge amount of people who have been MAGA, tea party, Reaganites, McCarthyists voting for it. This shit has been going on for decades.
Just because the midterms didn’t go Trump’s way doesn’t mean US citizens have changed.
Most people who voted Republican in 2024 and Democratic in this year’s midterms did so for economic reasons, not because the Republicans in power are fascists, not because they disagree with what Trump has said over the last two years.
Trump is not a disease that has befallen the US and everything is fine if it’s removed. US citizens voted for him. They wanted what he promised: to make America great again and let someone else pay the price.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-exit-polls-2026-midterms-democrats/
Maybe the world can tell that both US political parties are in the pockets of the same people.
Good, they elected a known child-rapist and 37-time convicted felon, ffs.
Don't.
Not yet.
Let us earn a spot at the table by showing we can prosecute criminals and hold the corrupt and powerful to account.
Yeah .... I'm not trusting American to do anything right any more. They keep repeating the pattern of 'do stupid things', 'keep doing stupid things', 'hey guys I've stopped doing stupid things and I'm going to give you hope', ... then revert back to 'do stupid things' again ... over and over.
It wouldn't be so bad with any other country. The problem with the US is that they have such a big effect on the rest of the world due to the size of their military. It's like having a really dumb neighbour and you can't say or do anything about them because they have a really unhealthy number of machine guns and military grade weapons in, on and all over their house that everyone can see.
Trust won't return until systemic changes that made Trump possible are in place, and accountability for those who raped people and this nation happens. These midterms were a good necessary first step along the way. That's it.
We are at least two years from anyone being able to START to trust our country again. In order for that to happen, we will have to not only have to give the government over to the Dems, but we have to make sure that MAGA can never rise again.
It is clear that MAGA is an ongoing, enthusiastic National Security Threat, and that's BEFORE we embark on the next two years, in which PeeWee Himmler is going to unleash unspeakable violence on the American people in an attempt to crush us, and eliminate elections.
When we get our country back, we will have to prohibit MAGA from existing, and anyone associated with MAGA must be purged from our government. They are Domestic Terrorists, by their own admission, and our elected officials take an oath to protect us from all threats, "Foreign and Domestic," and MAGA is exactly what they mean by Domestic.
When we've purged MAGA, and passed laws that will shore up the weaknesses in our government that MAGA exposed and exploited (like increasing SCOTUS), and we start acting responsibly toward the rest of the world, then maybe the rest of the world can start to trust us.
We've got a lot of work to do to restore America's reputation and place in the Free World.
What does this change?
Like 20 million people actually came out and voted, which is great, but the system is exactly the same.
So how can we trust the US when frankly, never in its history has the US punished their leaders or this tore off behaviour.
For a country that brags about checks and balances, I’ve watched your leaders sell pardons, pardon each other, and your Supreme Court decided the president is immune to consequences.
I lined the day one sober comment, but the US isn’t even sober.
Exactly.
Its much, much too early to celebrate American democracy. They haven't actually unwound anything at all, and whether they can or will remains to be seen.
US history both recent and distant taught me that the US was never to be trusted. Trump is merely the icing on a really shitty cake.
Why do so many US citizens believe their country was amazing until Trump came along? Read your own history FFS.
Relatively heavy levels of indoctrination.
Its easy to indoctrinate people into something that is nice to believe 'this is the greatest country in the world, anyone can become anything here', what a lovely fantasy. Who wouldnt accept this falsehood when presented with it? Who would willingly reject it if they could easily lie to themselves instead.
Tbf, they are far from the only country that does this, its hard to distinguish why it can seem so much more prevalent in Americans.
There are a few comments here making similar points, so I’ve just picked one to respond to, but it’s a response to all of them…
As some background, I’ve worked with many US citizens over the years, all over be world in different jobs, and all of them university-educated. Almost all of them liberals (not a term I use lovingly). I only ever met one who didn’t despise Trump.
What always struck me as tough to swallow was that although they could criticize Trump or the GOP, all of them appeared to love their country, and more annoyingly, to feel a palpable sense of superiority about being ‘American.’ I would often get made fun of for being where I’m from, and I’d ask them why exactly they were so much better than every other country.
Was it the corporate government masquerading as democracy? Was it the ability for their military to flatten peasant villages? Was it their long record of overthrowing democratically elected governments all over the world?
What, oh educated well-traveled ‘Americans,’ makes you so superior to the rest of us?
I’ve lived in dictatorships, in highly religious states, in places where children having shoes is a rarity, but I’ve truly never come across people so sure of their greatness and the greatness of their country as ‘Americans.’ It’s quite nauseating, whether as a colleague or simply as a tourist.
Indoctrination is surely everywhere. I’ve lived it myself and I’ve seen it in every country I’ve ever been. Try avoiding a Turkish flag in Istanbul, Hindu propaganda in India, or CCP everything in China. Despite all that, I’ve found the US inflated sense of importance is quite incomparable, especially when compared to the many other nationalities I’ve met outside their home countries.
I suppose it’s the cliché of the “ugly American” I find so irritating. None of them I met, not one, ever took time to even try to understand my story as someone whose greatness could not measure up to theirs, so it certainly doesn’t come naturally to me to feel as if they’re all poor victims who I need to be patted on the head and smile at. Their smugness doesn’t inspire that.
I was indoctrinated. We all were. If you’re an educated adult in the 21st century, all the historic info one would ever need is out there. To instead choose a default superiority-mode seems simply ignorant to me.
And again, I’ve worked with dozens upon dozens of educated ‘Americans.’ I’ve also traveled all over the US more than once, not that I ever would again.
Anyway, I know enough to differentiate between some everyday ‘American’ and a rabid MAGA fascist, yet that inner core of “we’re better than you” seems to exist in the overwhelming majority of them that I’ve met, even the ones I call friends.
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The problem is: the party has changed, but has politics actually changed, too?
We know the Democrats to be toothless enough to think about rolling out the carpet for Trump instead of actually dealing with him.
So we'll just wait in how far they reign in their chief degenerate. If they stop his unnecessary wars, put limits to AI, scrap tariffs, and some other things out of Trumps pot of stupid ideas, we are open to talk again.
Just standing and watching when Trump sells Ukraine and us to his favorite dictator Putin will not make them friends here.
Look at all the assholes like Schumer and Jeffries, they can’t wait to reach across the aisle and suck Trump off.
That is one big part of the problem.
We haven't actually done anything yet. We have picked people we believe will do the exact opposite of what the last batch we picked are doing.
The big question is if the new batch waiver or foolishly think they will survive the decade if they follow the standard Democrat Party playbook of empty promises, appeasement, and spinelessness.
The bulk of the other politicians in 1930s Germany didn't have a good time after letting a psychotic minority party seize control.
MAGA is a violent but relatively tiny party inside of a smaller political faction that survives through gerrymandering and exploiting our anachronic election system. The Nazis gained control because no one opposed them. The question is if the existing politicians will get out of the way and accept the mandate of the people.
It's gonna take a minute. These people are not even in office yet.
And donnie and his accomplices are going to do who knows what in the next 2+ years...
Yeah, and it's unfortunately deserved. Why make any long term deals with America when someone unhinged could get elected and take a sledgehammer to everything anyway. It will take DECADES for America to regain the trust of the rest of the world
It's a start, maybe even a good one, but there's a awful lot of work left to be done. Bare minimum, there's a lot of norms to codify and a lot of corruption to clean up before former allies will want to reconsider the US as a potential reliable partner again.
Not sure why there's distrust now, Kissinger said decades ago
It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal.
We, as in the rest of the world, might start to do so once we see the current Junta hang and all their affiliates thrown into the deepest, darkest Oubliette.
Otherwise, we will just assume that you will bring in a new round of the worst and most despicable conservatives and pedophile rapists in 2-6 years.
It takes a bit more than just some voting to regain the world's trust that your favourite nations past time hasn't become "Heil'ing" around and snacking Lead paint chips of the walls
Don't trust us until Trump is gone. Even then, probably don't trust us.
Trump is a symptom, not the problem. The issue is that right now, there is no guarantee the US won't pick another batshit crazy fascist in 2028 or in 2032. You need a reform so profound that you might as well call it refoundation. And I don't see that happening when almost half your electorate is still voting for these republicans (and those who didn't would have voted for them if gas prices were decent).
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