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change dot org petitions have 0 influence on Congress. It's a distraction and a waste of time. I'm half convinced they're a misinformation campaign by the opposition to get people to sign a worthless petition instead of doing what they should be doing, which is...
👏 Call 👏Your 👏 Representatives (House AND Senate)👏 And 👏 Tell 👏 Them 👏 Directly. 👏
...you know people can do both, right? ...
I agree you need to contact your legislators. But it takes 30s to sign, so why not do both?
It has no direct impact, but it's free to sign and can quickly balloon until it's no longer ignorable. The current petition already passed 1M signatures
People should also call their reps
Anyone (eg. people who've never even been to the US) can sign one of those as many times as they want. There's no verification so it's not even representative of US voters, much less any particular Congress person's constituents. Congress people want to know what their actual constituents think, not what could just be Chinese bot farm. Your congressional representatives are not paying any attention to online petitions. Period.
Congress people want to know what their actual constituents think
Not according to the evidence.
They're sitting there passively mining Peoples' information.
And people just hand it over. No need for a poll or data crunching if people willingly get incensed about a cause and provide contact info.
What the fuck is he trying to say?
I think he's referencing this:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/mariamsharia/aoc-message-for-gen-z-millennial-cringe
Everyone involved in that story needs to go outside, urgently.
Says the lemmy user who – instead of going outside – decided to poop on someone else's umbrella...
Curious!
Remember that change.org petitions are a meaningless safety valve introduced by the Obama era neolibs as a way to trick people trying to change things into changing nothing.
Okay then. After you sign it, send a link to your senators and representatives so they know you're not speaking alone when you tell them how you feel about Schumer and Jeffries.
...you are emailing your congresspeople, right? ...or did you only come here to be a naysayer?
Emails are ignored. Call them!
Or.. Skip the change.org and do stuff directly.
This back-and-forth reminds me of that "firebomb a Walmart" tweet
¿Porque no los dos?
Wow. You literally just described voting in liberal democracies founded by land-owning white supremacist men who sought to hoard wealth without the masses having any power to stop them
Oh, look a .ml user trying to promote fascism. Shocker.
Oh look, a lemmy.world user who's never wondered why fascism has only ever emerged from liberalism. Shocker.
Yeah I suppose you would prefer a system where nobody gets to vote or own any land or cooking utensils, and everyone is entirely dependent upon a highly centralized authoritarian government that collects all their grain and sells it overseas, leaving the masses to starve while building mansions for themselves and calling it "communism"?
You know, cause judging by your instance you probably look up to the likes of Stalin and Mao, who did those things.
You're so funny. You do realize that for 100 - 150 years after every Euro-liberal revolution the masses of people were destitute while the elite became insanely rich? You think the robber barons were an anomaly? Why do you think the labor movement happened? It wasn't because people were well taken care of.
Meanwhile in every communist revolution mass poverty alleviation was the primary driver of economic organization, ending centuries of famine cycles, lifting 100s of millions out of abject poverty, and it only took them between 10 and 30 years to establish the industrial and economic base to do it. In the USSR rent was less than 10% of person's income. In China, a child laborerer on a rice farm in 1949 is today sitting in a car that park itself.
Stalin came from poverty and ethnic minority, became the most powerful man in the USSR and died with almost nothing to his name except some clothes and few pieces of furniture.
Would I prefer a system that governs for the benefit of the masses? Absolutely.
What's funny is that you are so adamant that having a vote in a liberal democracy matters so much that it's evil to not have exactly the type of voting system from liberal democracy, and yet that self same voting system is exactly what allowed the oligarchs to maintain and grow their power for 250 years without anyone ever being able to stop them.
Yes, I would gladly abandon this farce of a democracy for something that actually helped the masses instead of the system that protects the opulent minority from the will of the majority (to use the words of American founding father and 5th president James Madison).
For anyone who wants the link:
https://www.change.org/p/house-democrats-choose-a-new-speaker
And a bonus link for Schumer:
https://www.change.org/p/senate-democrats-choose-a-new-majority-leader