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[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 252 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Use EICAR test strings as passwords so when the password is stored as plain text the antivirus software will delete the file.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 138 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Dude makes a whole binary of a virus his password.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Doesn't have to be a binary file, toss the string in a txt file and the AV still throws a fit.

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[–] Ekybio@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What is an EICAR test string?

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 78 points 1 month ago (3 children)

a computer file that was developed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research (EICAR) and Computer Antivirus Research Organization to test the response of computer antivirus programs. Instead of using real malware, which could cause real damage, this test file allows people to test anti-virus software without having to use real malware.

[–] JGrffn@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This sounds like a step towards computer vaccines, and I'm not about to let my computer get autism, thank you.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Joke's on you, all computers are autistic.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 37 points 1 month ago

X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

A specific string of text that you can use to test your AV without actually grabbing a virus.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unfortunately there is significant overlap between plain-text-password-servers and servers that can't be bothered to use antivirus. Also, the string may not work if it's not at the start of the file. AV often doesn't process the whole file for efficiency purposes.

[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 49 points 1 month ago

It's not about the password on the server where you want to log in, it's about CSV files stored on the machine of the cybercrook who wants to use the passwords to steal people's identities.

[–] Orygin@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sadly it wouldn't work if found in a CSV file with other records:

According to EICAR's specification the antivirus detects the test file only if it starts with the 68-byte test string and is not more than 128 bytes long. As a result, antiviruses are not expected to raise an alarm on some other document containing the test string

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[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 171 points 1 month ago (4 children)

fun fact, "commas" does not require an apostrophe

[–] a14o@feddit.org 72 points 1 month ago

Single quotes are another great way to mess with unsanitized data input though

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm watching the collective knowledge of my civilization crumble and I'm powerless to stop it

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)
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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Commas might be the comma's property. Step off.

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[–] Delusions@lemmy.dbzer0.com 104 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Add comma's

Add commas what?

Adding an apostrophe makes the s possessive

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 41 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The apostrophe is to announce that the next letter will be an 'S'!

[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago

As observed by that legendary grammarian Dave Barry.

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[–] grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one 89 points 1 month ago (1 children)

add apostrophes to your meme to reduce clarity

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 79 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Interesting... I wrote a gag comment about using an SQL injection as my password and crashed the Lemmy API. Using connect if that makes any difference.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 53 points 1 month ago (1 children)

noice! Did the '; DROP TABLE USERS;' respond?

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Almost line for line. A wall of XML popped up when I hit submit. Looks like yours went through.

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[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 month ago

Like the Bobby tables? Can u put it in a coffee?

[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
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[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

Don't add apostrophes to make words plural, that's not how it works.

Until next time

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They had to put a comma in there somewhere. Even of it was in the wrong place and upside down.

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[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Sadly, no. CSV files can deal with embedded commas via quoting or escaping. Given that most of the dumps are going to be put together and consumed via common libraries (e.g.python's csv module), that's all going to happen automagically.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 23 points 1 month ago

Can be != will be

You're looping over 50M records, extracting into your csv. Did you bother using the appropriate library, or did your little perl script just do split(/,/,$line)

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What about quotes (single/double) and \s mixed with commas?

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Everything you can use for a password can be escaped out of a csv. Partially because csvs have to be interoperable with databases for a bunch of different reasons, and databases are where your passwords are stored (though ideally not in plaintext). There's no way that I can think of to poison your password for a data breach that wouldn't also poison the password database for the service you're trying to log into.

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[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

Pass","words","Are","fun","\n

Fuck that csv All the way up.

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[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (8 children)

CSV has standard escape sequences. This is pointless

See RFC-4180:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc4180

[–] BodilessGaze@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

CSV existed for over 30 years before RFC 4180. Excel, and countless other tools, have their own incompatible variants. Excel in particular is infamous for mangling separators when exporting to CSV.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck Excel's CSV handing. It differs by locale, silently. Imagine the thousands of people every year who patiently wait to import a multi-megabyte CSV from some instrument only to see garbage because their language uses the decimal comma and semicolon separator.

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[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That standard won't stop me because I can't read!

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[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Thanks to my password manager, commas are among the more tame characters that occur in my passwords.

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[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

OP thinks security researchers don't understand how to properly serialize data for correct deserialization. OP also thinks they largely use CSV.

[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

OP is uninformed and just found it funny and worth sharing. Good day

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[–] joan@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Add apostrophes to "commas" to mess with me

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Mine are typical error messages.

See you next time!

[–] Saganaki@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago

Comma, single quote, double quote, escape last \ and all your cases are covered.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

ngl this got a good fucking chuckle out of me

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