Wouldn't this also include any form of defense law? Sounds like you wouldn't even be able to represent anyone in court who is being accused of "illegal activity", without losing your loan forgiveness.
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This is the point - authoritarian regimes make absurd laws that are vague and impossible to follow, so that prosecution can be fully politically-selective.
They will decide after the fact, without any objective standard, if your legal conduct is "illegal" for loan forgiveness purposes. (Maybe also criminal charges purposes, but I think they're saving that for next year after we all get used to this step.)
Except this isn't even a law.
It wasn't passed or voted on by Congress.
It is a guideline, from the Dept. of Education.
So... yeah that's not a law, and thus... nothing can be said to be 'illegal' when not in compliance with it.
Had we a functioning government and legal system, that was not headed by a Supreme court that lols at the idea that precedent matters... well you could probably argue that this rule is itself illegal, unconstitutional.
But, alas, the law and order President actually just means that the law is whatever he says it is, so... moot point.
He's the law and order president.
The law is whatever he orders it to be.
Yes, loose phrasing on my part. But agree completely.
Well, thats whole thing with laws and lawyers, its a knowledge set and way of thinking that... largely, essentially simply is a highly specialized form of pedantry, lol.
That's exactly the point. It's fucking cruel just like everything else they are doing.
So, representation of people the cons don't like is now "illegal"?
The people supporting this sort of thing should be shot. I'm not joking or exaggerating. They have abandoned society in its entirety and are a legitimate danger to its continued existence.
I am hoping Blue State governors form a ReUnion army. I want to properly finish Reconstruction, with my two bloodied hands. I don't want to spend the last 40ish years of my life in a MAGA hellscape.
It will suck to fight and to do awful things, perhaps even to die horribly. But to live with the MAGAT, is to become the MAGAT.
Basically. Can’t have people represent brown people or the children raped by the GOP.
If Biden had actually fixed this shit when Dems had the numbers, trump never would have had a second term...
You can't promise voters one thing in a campaign, call them stupid while in office for thinking it would happen, then promise in the next campaign you'll actually do it and expect to get re-elected.
Hell, trump doing that to his voters is the whole reason Biden finally got in the oval ~40 years after his first attempt.
agreed but Pepperidge Farms remembers trumps supreme court blocked Biden loan forgiveness more than 3 times. so come on.
Does pepper ridge farms remember how it became Trump's SC?
You have to go back a decade, these days it's a big ask....
Spoiler:
Neoliberals and Obama wouldn't push Obama's pick thru so it could be used as a stick to get people to vote Hillary.
They bet the country's future and lost. Like, it most likely hurt more than helped. It motivated republicans to vote, and it turned off potential Dem voters.
So again:
If they had done what they were elected to, trump never would have won that election.
To be fair, Obama's pick fucking sucked and also helped fuck over democracy by slow-walking Trump's prosecution.
That's another example of what I was saying the other day, about how it's not so much that Obama was fucking up at being progressive, but instead that he was succeeding at being neoliberal controlled opposition.
That Obama pick? Merrick Garland. It wouldn’t have mattered bro.
it's a big ask....
Nope. Just a big request.
Grammar coming from somewhere other than the prestige dialects you're so fond of are also valid ways of communicating.
Yes, let's talking about the dems every fucking time trump does something nazi or shitty.
- Trump is cutting benefits
- Invading US cities
- Kidnapping and disappearing people, some US citizens
- Murdering people on boats so he can steal their oil
- Demolishing the white house
- Grifting at every corner
But yes, somehow, let's talk about the dems.
The point is not to shift blame to the democrats. The point is to make light of the fact that the dems are controlled opposition, and they still serve the same capitalist class that maga does.
Until we abandon the capitalist, bourgeois parties, the descent into fascism will continue - as the democrats ensured after waffling each time they were in power these past few decades. No amount of lesser evilism or electoralism will get us out of this.
None of that would be happening if the dems hadn't put oligarchs and a foreign genocidal nation before their constituents.
Sure we could pat them on the back and tell them none of it is their fault, but each time we give them slack, they hang themselves with it. Better to keep up the pressure, especially when it's justified. Maybe we might even get 2 cents of change out of it if we are lucky.
If I leave my door open and someone robs me, that's a little bit my fault. But it's a lot the robber's fault.
The Republicans have agency. They choose to be human shaped trash bags. They deserve the majority of the blame and scorn. They are the worst people on earth.
What if someone else is in charge of the door and we all say "Hey I think those robbers are coming back, can we close and lock the door?" Then that person makes the door a little bit less ajar but still open and tells you to thank them. And you say "The door is still open, can we close it?" Then the door person walks away.
Yes, it's the robber doing the robbing, but it's also very much the fault of the person who chose to only address the problem in a superficial way.
I mean, kind of, but the robber is the root cause. They have agency and choose to rob. If it was flood protection, yeah, can't blame the water.
The Republicans deserve the bulk of the blame
To stretch the metaphor; If you leave your door open and collaborate with the robber in order to commit blatant insurance fraud it's both your fault.
The Democrats also have agency, they are the friends and coworkers of "the worst people on earth".
Biden couldn't do shit for student loans via SCOTUS, what makes you think he could prevent this? The damn game is rigged against common sense.
SCOTUS told us it isn't illegal if the president does it. He literally could have mandated all data on federal student loans be forgiven. Biden sat on his hands for 4 years and expected people to just support his designated successor.
No they didn't. They said they were the arbiters of what a president could and couldn't legally do and they wouldn't tell you what those were ahead of time.
No they didn’t
They said it, you're just ignorant of it and opinionated ..
In a recent interview with The New York Times, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett conceded that the high court would be incapable of enforcing its own rulings if the Trump administration openly defied orders that interfered with the president's political agenda.
"[T]he court lacks the power of the purse," she told columnist Ross Douthat during an interview for his podcast. "We lack the power of the sword. And so, we interpret the Constitution, we draw on precedents, we have these questions of structure, and we make the most with the tools that we have."
Biden couldn’t do shit
I couldn't bake a cake this morning, because I didnt bother to put in the effort.
Biden couldn't forgive student loans, because he didn't bother to put in the effort.
The damn game is rigged
No disagreement, just curious why you think a literal lifetime politician like Biden who in 2020 couldn't shut up about wanting to work with Republicans again wasn't one of the ones rigging it...
He ain't one of us, he never was.
Dude is in old timey black and white video advocating in support of segregated bussing. Like how in the fuck is this dude the best candidate the primaries gave us?
I’m tired, boss.
The tired feeling is how you know you're strong. You haven't given up despite all the crap you have to deal with. And don't feel guilty to take a rest, rest is resistance when living under late-stage capitalism.
Enjoy dictatorship! It will be a new experience. And after that you can also get experience in ending one!
Take that nihilism elsewhere. They're tired because they're not succumbing to either fascism or nihilism.
It's not nihilism, it's realism and no one is succumbing to anything.
Nah, what I just said was realism. Do you even know your own intent when you tell someone to enjoy their dictatorship? Please share, I want to know.
So it seems you read this first part and stopped right there, because what I say next changes the entire meaning of the text. Please read everything, and if you still don't understand, ask me, and I'll be happy to explain.
Hmm, seems you're right and I need to find how better to handle triggers. Thanks for responding in a level headed manner.
This sounds like a directive from Miller. Trump is too much of a mush brain to have come up with this himself.