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So… Trump praises Allah and the Iranians defend Jesus. Definitely did not have that on my 2026 bingo card.
You're aware that Jesus features in the Quran as well as the Bible, right...? Highly respected figure in Islam, not at all surprising that Iran would be defending him.
Yes, I’m quite aware that the background is that after being visited by the archangel Gabriel and explained that basically the Christians did not understood Jesus message, Muhammad created Islam, hence being known as “the true prophet”. I’m also aware that as a figure, Jesus has been “whitened” to the image of Zeus to please Europeans of that time. That doesn’t prevent him of bring the symbol of the Catholic religion.
he's been whitened to the image of a Germanic man during the Christianisation of central Europe
I mean if anything it would be to please the Romans, but anyway the "whiteness" of Jesus wasn't a thing that occurred all at once. It was slow and over hundreds of years. Not that strange to think illiterate medieval peasants that never traveled more than 20km from their birthplace weren't nuanced in all the "races" of the world or had a good understanding of geography. Of course they would imagine that this religious figure looked like them
Was Zeus white? I thought that was also the invention of the Europeans at the time.
Allah is God. Why do so many people not know that?
Because according to people who don't understand the religion they claim to follow, Allah is a different god.
You're not incorrect, but I think there's no reason why a Christian should think Allah is the same god that Christians worship. That belief that it's the same god is a belief of Islam, which is not the religion that Christians follow.
The fact that Allah literally translates as "god" is irrelevant, as well. Poseidon is also called a "god", but that doesn't mean he's the same god.
All the Abrahamic religions share the same God.
It is a shame some people don't understand their own religion.
Kind of curious but how do Abrahamic religions feel about religions with a pantheon? Are all the Gods the same guy in different costumes or is there only one true God amongst a bunch of impostors?
Abrahamic religions generally believe other gods exist but that they are false gods. Christians mostly believe in the triunity, meaning that three separate gods (Jesus, God, Holy Ghost) are actually the same god.
I am no biblical scholar, but I have spent over a decade studying religions out of self-interest. I know just enough to get myself in trouble, so I don't claim any authority.
If you actually empathize with a person who has different beliefs, for example, you'd realize that when somebody takes one religion, and changes it drastically, that the people with the earlier religion would not consider themselves to be worshipping the same god as the later religion.
If Jews really thought Christians were worshipping the same god, they'd become Christians. If Jews or Christians really thought that Muslims were worshipping the same god, they'd all become Muslims. Islam came last, so of course they'd have the most up-to-date religion, right? Why would anybody keep the old ways if they actually thought Muslims worshipped their same god? They wouldn't. It makes no sense.
Especially because the god in Islam seems quite different to the Christian god. Islam's religious text instructs the faithful to lie about their religion when it suits their needs, for example. Jesus described himself as the truth. Catholics, for example, believe that Jesus is god. Islam says that Jesus is only a prophet. That is a fundamental difference in who they believe is god.
Their main religious figures couldn't be more different, either. The Jesus described in the Christian Bible was an educated Jewish holy man. Mohammed was an illiterate pedophile warlord. If a Christian thinks that their god is the same as Allah, then they just haven't thought about it. That is a belief of Islam, not Christianity.
You make a lot of good logical points, but religion isn't logical.
You can read up on Abrahamic Religions below
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions
The gist is that all these religions have a common ancestor with some slight differences. Jews are still waiting for their savior, they recognize Jesus along with the Muslims as a prophet, but not their savior. Muslims recognize Mohammed as the final prophet, but not a savior in the sense Jesus is to the Christians.
Trust me, they have thought about it and all agree they worship the same god even if they have different key prophets (Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed). It is weird and confusing for sure.
Trust me, they can say "we all worship the same god", but it's meaningless because they actually don't. Their gods have fundamental irreconcilable differences, and if they say otherwise, they're just trying to avoid a fight.
Yeah if I understand correctly Allah is just a contraction of "Al Illah" which means "the god".
I love the history of the emergence of monotheism, it was very gradual and often the one god had to cohabit with lesser deities for centuries before they fully took over. Interestingly, Yahweh was in competition for some time with other warrior storm gods, including Belial and Baal which were ultimately demonized to the highest degree to prevent them coming back.
That's a naive interpretation of the lore , then allah is also the same god of the mormons who is one of many in their pantheon. just because an atheist can step back and analyze the lore and draw relationships between fictional characters doesnt mean you can do the same through a lens of absolute truth in a haunted universe with real ghosts
This isn't defending Jesus. Jesus violently punching Trump is also blasphemy.
Hilarious blasphemy, though.
Idk, he flipped tables and chased/threw people out in a church, from my limited understanding.
With a whip!