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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Look we have a both sider just in time for the next election. What a strange coincidence.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Oh yes, every two years, what an UNCANNY COINCIDENCE that an independent speaks six months before an election. You are truly the world's greatest detective.

meanwhile, in reality, independents are 40% of the electorate. Ds and Rs are down to 30% each.

Perhaps you should listen to the independents, instead of insulting them? You need independents to win any election. You're not doing yourself any favors.

This is why bOtH pArTiEs are losing voters; when will you figure it out, detective?

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hey look, someone who thinks that independents can win and not just siphon off votes in our two party first past the post voting system.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

our two party first past the post voting system.

What a ridiculous system.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah it is, and it DOESN'T change by refusing to participate.

[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

It damn sure doesn't change by legitimizing it with your vote every couple of years.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Oh it is totally ridiculous.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They said: Demz should win over independent voters

You heard: Vote 3rd party

Take a moment for yourself.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Try reading between the lines and you will start to figure out people are not honest about what they say.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Every accusation is a confession. Makes me wonder what are you not being honest about here?

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Stop spouting buzzwords and regurgitated phrases that don't apply.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 1 week ago

If Isreal treated Palestinians like how China treats the Uyghurs then Kamala would be president.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That people lie about their intentions? Please tell me it isn't so.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well good thing we have you to tell us what our intentions are. I can now see why you defend the "adults in the room", this behavior mirrors them well.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mulligrubs is a self admitted Tanky who is pro-violence. Unlike you I can read between the lines.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As they say, "A hit dog will hollar".

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

More useful idiots I suppose, cheers!

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the end we all get the government we deserve, don't we?

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Depends if you are fatalistic or not I suppose. Sometimes it is hard not to be honestly.

https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I mean it in the way that how we treat others is being reflected by how the government treats us. This article is a fine example of people acting like they don't need to listen to those they disagree with because they already figured out how the world works. I wish I could say I'm immune to this, I am not.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A lot to unpack here.

I get the golden rule ideology, but I am not sure it can really encompass human behavior.

For instance, propaganda drives of how people treat each other. Take anti-trans or anti-gay rhetoric in the US. This is what drives people's opinions and the government uses this to influence people.

We can see evidence of this with bathroom bills. The government uses basic psychology of people feeling vulnerable in the restroom as a cudgel to attack a group of people that are not known to create unsafe situations.

Transposing this fear onto trans-people is a form of psychological warfare. This isn't about treating others as you would have them treat you. It is about propaganda and control of voting blocs.

As I mentioned it is hard not to be fatalistic because evidence shows that 90%+ of all regulations, policies, and laws passed are at the request of corporations. Business makes the vast majority of decisions the government enacts.

Rather than view this the end point of understanding how governments work we can use it as a launch pad to create new forms of governments that don't suffer from the extreme regulation capture we see today.

If pointing out the truth is disheartening I would say that is more reflective about someone's inability to deal with the real world.

We have to be present and recognize what is really going on. We cannot change if we don't even recognize what needs to be changed. Wasting our time lobbying a government that will never listen to us pointless. We need to move beyond the paradigm we are in and see through the falsehoods.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Less thinking of the golden rule, more about Dietrich Bonhoeffer, but he was a theologian so maybe that's part of it. He said something to the effect that some politicians come to power through cynicism of the people and that the antidote is a politics that utilizes people's ability to act independently (or alternatively without coercion).

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

This is why bOtH pArTiEs are losing voters; when will you figure it out, detective?

Both parties aren't losing voters, fucking dumbass. The same amount of Trump supporters shows up in 2024 as 2020.

[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Looks like we have a genocide stanning, Blue MAGA party loyalist, just in time for the next election, what a strange coincidence.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If your referring to me you are about as wrong as you can be. I have no qualms calling out the US as the fascist nation it has always been.

I am also not afraid to call out Russia and China as fascist nations as well. I grow tired of campists from .ml as they are mostly just authoritarian apologists.

[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

authoritarian apologists.

Authoritarianism is a useless term created by Liberals to obfuscate the differences between Socialism and Fascism.

Russia is a vaguely protofascist Oligarchy, that's kind of true. They only deserve support in so far as their actions weaken imperial hegemony.

China is not at all fascist and it's laughable that you suggest it is. Unless your definition of Fascism is "when the government says there are things I'm not allowed to do"...

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yup, found another authoritarian apologist. No surprise.

Tell me how China, that cranked out more billionaires than the US this and last year, is not practicing unfettered capitalism.

Tell me how supplying arms to war torn countries is not fascist. They are now the fourth largest producer of arms

Tell me how they are not an authoritarian oligarchy with a single ruling party where dissent is punished with prison.

Actually, don't bother. I hate hearing from human rights abusers. Disgusting.

[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

All I'm getting here is that you don't understand the actual meaning of a lot of the words you're using, and that you uncritically accept Imperialist framing of everything.

China isn't practicing "unfettered capitalism", because their economy is under the control of the people through the Communist Party. What they are practicing is a form of socialism, the middle state between capitalism and communism which includes parts of both.

China did produce more billionaires than the US last year. Developing economies tend to do that faster and more often than stale ones. China also sentenced more billionaires to death for exploitation last year than the US has ever, but that little data point doesn't fit with your CIA approved narrative.

"Supplying arms to war torn countries" is that Fedspeak for "giving oppressed nations and resistance groups the ability to fight back against Imperialism"?

China is not an "authoritarian Oligarchy", you're thinking of the United States.

The U.S. is an Oligarchy? The Research, Explained | RepresentUs https://share.google/JIlxY85GIDUfoKG6o

China is a robust democracy where people have direct control, so parties in the Western sense are unnecessary and undesirable.

Studies show strong public support for China’s political system https://share.google/T9Bm5GvSUW0Xt0hdz

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I am getting the feeling that you are a China apologist. Good for you I guess.

You don't get billionaires by practicing controlled capitalism. A billionaire is about as far from small market capitalism as you can get. We are talking massive concentration of wealth and power. Hence the unfettered capitalism. While the state does take a cut of profits from every corporation it does not micro management them.

Cool knowing you are hand waiving the execution of human beings. We already knew you were a human rights abuser, but thanks for the additional confirmation.

As we see the wealth gap grow with billionaire and upper class mobilization, it creates a very obvious two tired society. Tying to say they are practicing socialism in a literal sense is pretty ridiculous.

Their may be some socialist aspects specifically with universal medical coverage, but the devil is always in the details with substandard medical delivered to rural areas and far better care delivered to the urban caste.

China is one party oligarchy with a side of authoritarianism. They are open about their one party rule and taking a cut of all business profit so denying the oligarchy is fucking silly.

For the Authoritarian part well the executions and extreme surveillance society wrap that up in a neat little bow. If you don't believe me just asks the Muslim population they are so desperately trying to erase or their actions in Tibet as well as musings of preventing Taiwan independence. All signs point to tight authoritarian control of all aspects of society including religious worship.

The fact that you deny China supplies arms is just stupid. I don't even know where to begin with this level of denialism. China exports drones, missiles, and fighter jets to over 40 countries, with key customers including Pakistan, Myanmar, Nigeria, and Algeria. If you are playing stupid, It is working.

Yes, the United States is also a fascist nation like China. I have no problem calling a spade a spade. China is great because of the US not despite. They have been sleeping in each other's bed for a long time. Both disgusting nations built on imperialism. I would argue the US is far worse though.

The fact that you say Chinese citizens support their government when opposition is not allowed is absolutely tone deaf and hilarious at the same time. I thought calling the US a democracy is a big stretch but you will stretch it straight to the moon declaring China a robust democracy. Thanks for the laugh I suppose.

[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

^ This user's post sponsored by Radio Free Asia.

Thanks for the proof you can't tell the difference between the bullshit trappings of Liberal Democracy and the actuality of a people's democracy, have a nice day.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Go lick some more boots you fascist murder apologist.

[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Lol, dude defends the Democratic Party repeatedly and has the gall to call someone a "fascist murder apologist" for not accepting imperialist framing of AES states.

Pure clown shoes.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Oh looks like I struck a nerve with another human right's abuser. We know your team, but you don't know mine. Pure stupidity on your part.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

They want Democrats to keep loosing until their dumbass fantasy comes true.

Lazy "billionaire" criticism is so frustrating when we watch Republicans cut taxes for billionaires and take away healthcare coverage from 17 million Americans.