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Transcription: I Just Found Out that My Child's History Teacher is Forcing Them to Learn About Antifa Leaders. What is this Country Coming to?

Wikipedia page on Anti-fascism, listing Winston Churchill, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Charles de Gaulle as Counterrevolutionary Anti-fascism examples


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism


Don't worry, today (9/17/2025) is the day that the house committee deliberates on Macro Rubio's ability to use the people's freedom of speech as evidence of terrorist organisation aid.

H.R. 5300, SEC. 226. NO PASSPORTS FOR TERRORISTS AND TRAFFICKERS

So it's just a matter of time before all the Antifas are sent to concentration camps.

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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 13 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Do liberals actually consider Churchill Antifa?

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 26 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

By the strictest definition, I guess I can see it. He opposed Hitler, the most visible fascist of the 20th century, so he's an anti-fascist.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Yeah but it wasn't out of virtue. He didn't oppose German fascism because it was an immoral and ruthless ideology. He opposed it because it was a threat to Britain's power and influence. He was famously antisemitic and capitulated to the reich until the moment it became impossible to do so.

[–] Hector@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Gave the Nazis a lot of support because they were going after socialists and Communists and that was the big fear of the industrialists. Instead of some moderate reform they got to deal with a supreme leader that started a world war.

Thwy might have been better off with moderate reform than world war the rich.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Hence the "strictest definition." He was of the letter but not the spirit.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago

My bad I was not reading closely enough. I do be abiding by strict definitions though

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

He could've been ProFa and joined Hitler, so I'm also grateful for that.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but by that definition Hitler was a socialist!

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No, he actually opposed a fascist. Nothing Hitler did was socialist.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 0 points 5 hours ago

I was referencing the often parroted “nazis have socialist right in the name” talking point fascists use today.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Anyone who thinks a state leader of one of the most destructive empires in modern human history is not fascist...

This is the same empire that tried to destroy evidence of global wrongdoing in what they called Operation Legacy.

Ultimately, the Germans were just a bit fascist-er.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

You mean the empire that brought us Gaza and Kashmir? Fascist? Naaah

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know what Antifa even means but my mom says it's communist so I hate it!

[–] TheMightyCat@ani.social 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

My mom is always right!

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world -4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Liberals considered Biden to be antifa

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 8 hours ago

Man a lot of them probably fucking do is the sad thing.