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What does Antifa even mean? (infosec.pub)
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Transcription: I Just Found Out that My Child's History Teacher is Forcing Them to Learn About Antifa Leaders. What is this Country Coming to?

Wikipedia page on Anti-fascism, listing Winston Churchill, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Charles de Gaulle as Counterrevolutionary Anti-fascism examples

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism

Don't worry, today (9/17/2025) is the day that the house committee deliberates on Macro Rubio's ability to use the people's freedom of speech as evidence of terrorist organisation aid.

H.R. 5300, SEC. 226. NO PASSPORTS FOR TERRORISTS AND TRAFFICKERS

So it's just a matter of time before all the Antifas are sent to concentration camps.

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[–] Hector@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You joke but we are looking at a whole rewrite of History, multiple times over depending on State. States like Tennessee already made it illegal to teach any history that makes someone feel uncomfortable. That was years back.

It will be an easy transition because they don't really teach history anyway. Back in the seventies that used to teach history, by the '80s and '90s they did not in any real way and had a very cursory and manipulated history they taught.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 2 points 1 hour ago

I joke so I can make people feel an emotional connection to what is actually happening around them as they acknowledge the cognitive dissonance and reality.

Um...I mean...terrorists identified by Marco Rubio don't deserve passports

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Oh brother, 1984's doublespeak

[–] Steve@startrek.website 60 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

Im so confused. Are real people out there openly in favor of “fascism”?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 34 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What are you confused about? The current US administration is very openly fascist.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but they don't call it that. Nazis and fascism are "bad," regardless of how perfectly they embody their ideology.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

They pretty much reinvented it from conservatism. It's like carcinization, crustaceans evolving into crabs, but various right-wing flavors evolving into fascism.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

There are real people out there that have no idea what fascism is. They think it's a movement that will ensure they have a stable job and that will just gently ensure that people with colored skin stay out.

They'd be fairly innocent if it wasn't for the rampant racism

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 45 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Some people are openly fascist, yes. Thanks to the stupid fucking Jubbilee VS videos, I now know the depths of human stupidity are more boundless than I imagined.

However, I think this person just can't connect the dots that being anti-anti-fascism is just being pro-fascism. They don't actually think about the words they use, their meaning or their context. They just know that "antifa" is a left wing group, and left-wing, of course, bad, obviously. And since "antifa" stands for "anti-fascism", anyone that are "anti-fascists", including historical figures who lived and fought fascism well before the Antifa group existed, are the same as this modern group, and therefore left-wing, which, again, bad. They don't then take the next step in logic to, "if the anti-fascists were bad for opposing fascism, then fascism must be good. Praise Mussolini." Again, some do get there, but most are just thoughtless dum-dums.

It reminds me of when you ask people "If you are driving 80 miles PER HOUR, how long will it take for you to drive 80 miles?" And then they start guessing random shit or trying to logic it out or do math instead of just understand what the hell is being said. Weird mental gymnastics ensue that just demonstrate their complete lack of understanding.

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 17 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Nearly half of America seems to be although I'd argue they're too stupid to even realize it.

[–] Hector@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

More charitably we can say half the population trusts their tribal influencers to know what they are doing.

Before you go condemning them all, the tribal influencers telling people The Establishment Democrats know what they are doing or also misleading people. And people still do not seem to realize it.

Everyone trusts the wrong people.

[–] darvocet@infosec.pub 15 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They are like "nuh uh. You're the facist." When you read them the definition of the word they say google changed it.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's so fucking infuriating... The very same "facts over feelings" group will deny the veracity of any fact provided unless it comes directly from their propagandist of choice...

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 4 points 1 hour ago

People seem to have forgotten that the core conceit of George Orwell's 1984 isn't the surveillance state or the constant war or the two minutes hate and all the rest. It's the idea that by perverting what people even understand as truth you can get them to do anything.

Anti-fascists are Fascists, criticising someone who spouted hate speech is hate speech, anti-racism is racist.

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 2 points 6 hours ago

I don't know all these elitist words, but I heard that Antifa is a well organized Communist terrorist organisation!

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Don't worry, today (9/17/2025) is the day that the house committee deliberates on Macro Rubio's ability to use the people's freedom of speech as evidence of terrorist organisation aid.

H.R. 5300, SEC. 226. NO PASSPORTS FOR TERRORISTS AND TRAFFICKERS

So it's just a matter of time before all the Antifas are sent to concentration camps.

[–] Trevita17@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

DOA in the Senate, if it even gets that far.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry liberal, Republicans have 53 seats in the Senate.

We are going to own the libs and Antifa by making them our slave labor source.

[–] Trevita17@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They need 60 votes in the Senate to pass this, doofus.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

the 4th wall knocks over

It's a bit...I'm in character.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 hours ago

Denial is the first stage

[–] NochMehrG@feddit.org 39 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

There is a great song by the German punk band „Team Scheiße“, „FA“, with the refrain „Bist du anti Antifa, bist du Fa“ which translates to „If you’re anti Antifa, you’re fa[shist]. A bit simplistic but true.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

Wouldn't expect anything more poetic from "Team Shit."

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 29 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Just another word going through the right wing meaning-mangling-machine.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

People need to stop letting rightards redefine words. Whenever I hear someone railing about antifa I show them this picture and ask which side are they on. I'm not some edgelord in a trenchcoat with a fedora either. It actually makes them stammer and back out of that position in a fucking hurry.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Hey the image isn’t loading for me for lemmy related reasons, what’s the picture of?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Some unamerican antifa activists going about their woke business.

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

The Allied assault on Normandy beach.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Gotcha gotcha thank you!

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[–] ileftreddit@piefed.social 5 points 4 hours ago

Those darn antifa generals like Eisenhower, Patton and Bradley, and who could forget those antifa classics, Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 23 points 7 hours ago

my outlook is that antifa is active antihate. to be anti antifa is to be pro hate, pro fascist, pro genocide

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

It's shorter than saying you're exclusively pro-do, pro-re, pro-me, pro-so, pro-la, and pro-ti.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 13 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

Do liberals actually consider Churchill Antifa?

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 25 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

By the strictest definition, I guess I can see it. He opposed Hitler, the most visible fascist of the 20th century, so he's an anti-fascist.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Yeah but it wasn't out of virtue. He didn't oppose German fascism because it was an immoral and ruthless ideology. He opposed it because it was a threat to Britain's power and influence. He was famously antisemitic and capitulated to the reich until the moment it became impossible to do so.

[–] Hector@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Gave the Nazis a lot of support because they were going after socialists and Communists and that was the big fear of the industrialists. Instead of some moderate reform they got to deal with a supreme leader that started a world war.

Thwy might have been better off with moderate reform than world war the rich.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Hence the "strictest definition." He was of the letter but not the spirit.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

My bad I was not reading closely enough. I do be abiding by strict definitions though

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

He could've been ProFa and joined Hitler, so I'm also grateful for that.

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[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Anyone who thinks a state leader of one of the most destructive empires in modern human history is not fascist...

This is the same empire that tried to destroy evidence of global wrongdoing in what they called Operation Legacy.

Ultimately, the Germans were just a bit fascist-er.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 42 minutes ago

You mean the empire that brought us Gaza and Kashmir? Fascist? Naaah

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know what Antifa even means but my mom says it's communist so I hate it!

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[–] eareetator@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Where is this groups website? Can I register to get their newsletter?

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