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[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Most businesses have atleast one employee who has no ownership stake in the company

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And? You understand that socialism is antithetical to the concept of ownership, right? Of course you don't. You don't even understand what it is.

[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The concept of ownership? Do you think socialistes aren't allowed to own, say, the clothes they wear?

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

That depends on the the type of socialism. Marxist socialism let's own a pair of jeans but not a house.

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, socialism is antithetical to the concept of non worker ownership.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That's not true. Socialism is against the idea of private property outright. The very aim of the socialism as an economic system to collectivize all infrastructure, resources, property, land, and means of production where everything is "owned" by the "public". Something like a co-op where workers directly own the business they operate like a grocery store aren't allowed in a socialist system because that's still private property and the business is engaging in the free market. So even though its worker owned and it follows socialist principles on a micro level, it's antithetical to socialism.

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That's not true. Market socialism (which is what I support) allows for independent companies.

What you're talking about is Leninism and it's derivatives (which I oppose).

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Market socialism as a concept is vague. Are you talking about something more akin China or Vietnam today or something more idealistic and hypothetical? If it's the former then I assure you that China today is just state capitalism with Chinese characteristics.

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Something more idealistic and hypothetical.