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Then the end stage of communism, is communism.
What Stalin did, is the end of communism. What followed was the decline and lack of innovation.
Ohh it's big brain time!
The end stage of capitalism is mass extinction, a multi-national famine which is estimated to claim over 4 billion humans, and the potential to take down the earths biosphere if we reach self accelerating climate change.
Yes, that's why anarchism.
Thats just even more fucked up libertarianism.
Ah I see, you are American. Sorry for your circumstances.
no it wasn't, at least according to marx, who they claimed to follow
the stage BEFORE communism was the dictatorship of the proletariat, which they decided was extended, and they were representing the will of the people
so it actually never got to communism
But it did... and that's the joke.
There is no "end stage" communism or capitalism that fits their own purity tests; they are both ideals that we haven't managed to accomplish as a society, ever.
So, as far as humanity is concerned, what results in the attempt to reach that ideal is communism/capitalism as we know it (not as we imagine it will be at some point in future).
All forms of larger scale attempts at communism ends with dictatorship. There is no other practical way to enforce the "correct way" of existing within the human species. Correct according to who? Religion is pretty similar to communism in that way. There is either a God/king that expresses what you are allowed to do, or a written text that is followed at the moral guideline.
And the US now is the height of democracy, yes?
No? Not even a little bit.
nice attempt to control the conversation, but we're talking about capitalism, not communism.
You are talking about capitalism, you mean... they are talking about communism. Nice attempt to control the conversation while admonishing another for attempting to control the conversation, that's funny, you win a cookie.
p.s. this is not a one-topic-only discussion, even if you want it to be.
Thanks for your incredibly valuable input of nothing.
sure. so why not call it what it is?