cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16451158
this post was submitted on 25 Jul 2026
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LOL yup there it is
and no. i didn't miss shit. try again
all you're going to come back with is "uR dUm" or something equally stupid.
the fact is 3rd party/ abstaining is objectively the dumbest fucking position anyone could ever take, and now we have a fascist rapist racist pedophile president who sucks israel's cock. honestly gtfo with your vote 3rd party bullshit. fucking clowns
Who only became a viable candidate because of thirty years of lesser-evil voters covering for the Democratic Party to shift from slightly right of center to right of Reagan, but just slightly left of the "fascist rapist racist pedophile".
Nakedly fascist and white supremacist candidates have been in the Republic Primary forever. They never got the time of day from Republican voters until the bipartisan Neoliberal austerity had squeezed the working class so hard that a fascist strongman selling easy answers seemed attractive. And after the guy who ran on Hope and Change delivered Narratives and Crumbs instead, yeah a lot of disillusioned people who'd been first time voters during the Obama years went back to staying home. That's not because of "both sides" messaging depressing turnout, that's because of "both sides" reality showing them it didn't matter. They voted for a Public Option and got United Healthcare denying their claims. They voted to codify Roe and end the Bush Tax Cuts and got open air slave markets in North Africa and the Space Program handed over to Billionaires to cannibalize.
Then after Trump's first term, they watched the party push Biden from sixth to first without even trying to be subtle about it. And it was obvious even on Super Tuesday that Biden wasn't being annointed because he could stop Trump, but because he could stop Bernie Sanders. So why on Earth would anyone who finds the status quo untenable continue to support a party so obviously and totally devoted to defending the status quo against any attempts to improve it? Voting for the ratchet because you fear the wheel isn't going to motivate anyone. The only people still on your side are the ones too blind to see that ratchet effect policy and identity politics is the only thing the DNC has to offer.
So you're saying Trump accurately represents US Americans.
US Americans with their backs to the wall, with wages stagnant and costs of everything constantly going up? US Americans whose education has been gutted so that they have barely a high school civics understanding of how their government works? Yeah. Trump is an accurate representation of America's id, and the uniparty has gleefully created the exact conditions to bring out the worst in the greatest number of people.
I voted for Kamala 🤷♂️
You're the one now alienating people we need.
Your reading comprehension sucks. If ypu voted for harris the above post is NOT about you
Yeah, no shit it's not about me.
One of us definitely need work on comprehension.
Continuing to antagonize the people you want to help you is pretty close to just as stupid.
yea. "catch more flies with honey" right?
reasonable non-stupid people have been trying that for YEARS
DECADES
and here we are. yes, it's possible harris would have been worse for palestine than trump has been.
LOL j/k no fucking way.
but yea. i will continue to antagonize. these people aren't helping anyone, they're harming. fuck them
Agent of the enemy, right here. Zero self awareness.
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You are the problem
You idiots have been antagonizing people for decades. I say idiots because you think this insulting drivel is honey?
This is why Democrats lose.
Antagonize whom? Lemmy was FILLED with leftist preachers telling everyone that Harris needed to earn their vote. They loudly proclaimed that everyone needed to vote 3rd party to send a message.
It was no different than politely debating a Trump supporter. Anyone debating them was an attack. When they talked they believed it wasn't antagonizing, only responses were "antagonizing".
At this point those true leftist need to be publicly shamed for their mistake so it doesn't get repeated. Pretending it didn't happen will allow history to repeat.
Lemmy is a niche platform with, I believe, about 45,000 monthly active users. Let's say for the sake of argument that all of us were influenced into not voting. (Ridiculous, I know, but for the sake of argument.) That's less than a rounding error on the millions who didn't come out to vote in 2024. That is to say, all of the raging Lemmy Leftists affected basically nothing.
On top of that, surveys and interviews in the media after the election found that politically-engaged people, even leftists by and large, did vote for Harris. It's the politically disengaged, and disillusioned voters who didn't understand the stakes, or see any advantage in putting in the effort to vote. (What, did you seriously think that all Americans have perfect information, and make only deeply-considered, rational choices?)
On top of that, Republicans in control of state governments have been doing everything that they can to make voting harder, and less convenient, to suppress the turnout.
On top of that, the GQP ran Spanish-language ads in many markets peddling bald-faced lies. These ads were largely not countered by any Democratic messaging, and what there was was largely in English. The impression that I got was that Democrats felt that they had brown people's votes on lock. Never mind that brown people is a granfalloon, and they're just as ideologically diverse as any group of people, and many of them were not naturally inclined to vote Democratic. (That was certainly the case in Michigan.)
So, factually, we have a poorly-informed or not politically-engaged population that's not inspired to overcome the inertia and obstacles to go vote, and an uninspiring candidate who didn't speak to their daily lives and worries, and, no, forget all that, let's expend effort blaming the Lemmy Leftists.
THIS is why Democrats lose. It's so much easier to focus on a strawman and browbeating a handful of irrelevant loudmouths than it is to address these real issues, and actually inspire people to come out and vote with a message that reaonates with them.
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You are why Americans deserve trump.
Care to elaborate?
You got him elected.
That's a mighty large task. Sometimes it's hard to make myself take the trash out. I'm curious how I did it.
One of the other positions is pro rape, pro concentration camps and pro explosive diarrhea.
Then you should be voting against it.
That’s all the same thing, not 2 sides. If you’re abstaining, you’re supporting the pro rape, pro concentration camps, and pro explosive diarrhoea.
Vote in the primaries. Vote in the general. Know who you’re voting for or against, make sure you haven’t been purged.
no. words mean things.