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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, no, get outta here with that confederate bullshit. Southern Slavery was an evil institution, and the Union shooting it out of the South was a good thing.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Okay, this person is completely incorrect in their claim about sharecropping. But yes, the US federal government did not think slavery was an issue worth going to war to end. The Confederacy explicitly existed to continue slavery even though it was not threatened whatsoever in the South and more by freesoilers out west, including Lincoln and most "antislavery" activists. The US invaded the Confederacy because the Confederacy picked a fight and decided to shoot first, it was not about any moral ground. The decision to implement antislavery policy as a tactic during the war is more accurately attributed to the growing food and resource crisis the Confederacy suffered relative to the huge advantage that guaranteeing freedom to the overwhelming enslaved population there created.

So, yes, it was good that slavery was abolished as a consequence of this War, but it would be distortive to suggest the Union fought to do that specifically. Solidarity among property-owning classes was a much more influential element in whether war broke out, and was indeed a huge reason why the war did not start until southerners started it despite the many good moral reasons to shut it down.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago

Thank you for diverging from that sharecropper dipshit!

I would mention how the American West was a constant battleground, as shown with Saint John Brown.

You are absolutely correct that while Lincoln was an abolitionist, he said he wasn't willing to risk the Union over the "issue". Yet despite the claimed class solidarity between the North and South propertied, the South still became traitors as soon as Lincoln was elected.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Oh yes, but the resulting sharecropping was cool and pitting families against each other to fight the wealthy's war was great. Now run along like a good little propagandized fascist fuck.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

TIL being anti-slavery is fascism, poor John Brown

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Did I say slavery was a good thing? Man you are fucking stupid.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Truly a disgusting display of manipulation and inability to govern somehow transformed into "freeing the slaves"

The resulting sharecropping was often worse than slavery

Look buddy, it's neat you have the same takes and cadence as Everyone's Wildly Racist Uncle. Real neat, you have a lovely one, cya!

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What in the literal fuck are you talking about. The sharecroppers were often worse off afterwards. It was a whole new type of torture.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but white people continued fucking over the blacks to this day. The violence of the civil war didn't solve the problem.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You know what? I typed half a comment on the wildly evil realities of enslavement, but you clearly do not care. Shill your troll ass shit elsewhere.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

There is more slavery today than at any time in history. Please just go away with your nonsense.