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[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Nations can join whichever alliance they wish

Here, you claim that it was okay to join, for example, the German Axis.

What you’re describing here is a condemnation of Russian imperialism, not pushing for war.

Haha. "Us breaking these promises to Russia will cause Russia to go to war with us", "if we didn't make Ukraine join NATO, there wouldn't be the war". Really not pushing for war, yeah.

Also, cute how you talk about "Russian imperialism" while also supporting the gang of invaders of Iraq and Afghanistan (and more). Going to remind you that NATO is the most prolific invader in the world and is the primary force for imperialism in the world.

Russia never applied for NATO membership, there was nothing to refuse.

Formally? Sure. But NATO did let Russian leadership know that that wouldn't happen during talks.

Either way, Russia joining NATO would have been bad for the rest of the world due to what NATO is - an imperialist alliance that acts to colonially subjugate the Global South.

By the same logic, world war 2 could have been prevented by just giving the Nazis whatever they want.

Pfft. You are the one claiming that Russia should have given the nazis whatever they wanted instead of taking action against them. You are the one that says that, for example, joining the German Axis was not an act of aggression and that nobody should have taken action against that.

That’s not true.

Ukraine: bombs buses with children, school dormitories, nuclear power plants, brazenly does things like operation SpiderWeb which perfidiously use civilians to carry out military action
You: none of that happened.

NATO isn’t a belligerent in this war.

This is just laughable, especially considering the admittance that this war was completely preventable on NATO's side.


Also, it's weird how much you want to whitewash the most prolific invader in the world.