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‘You Go To Hell!’: Trump Ends Convention With The Most Bizarre Pledge You'll Ever Hear
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I'm grateful I accepted myself as a godless atheist long before this shit came up. If I was a Christian, a real Christian anyway, I'd be so fucking pissed off by this guy.
I mean, I'm pissed off by this guy anyway, but not in a divine way at least.
I wish this myth would die. There are no real christians. There is no real christ. The concept of christ is, "an abusive god sacrificed himself to save us from the violence he'll inflict on us if we don't submit completely to his vague and contradictory commands, which include owning slaves and selling women to their rapists."
Accountability is impossible when we tolerate magical thinking. Innocent people are dying for it.
A Christian is, by definition, someone who believes in the divinity of Jesus Christ. He doesn't have to exist for real Christians to exist. All that's required is the belief.
I spent hours debating someone who could not acknowledge this. I kept trying to point out that the entire notion of christ is built on the idea that an abusive god demands blood sacrifice, and they kept insisting christians can believe whatever they want.
They said the christian bible is one of many different christian texts, which is true, but they refused to acknowledge that most christians find that text in particular very important. It's why it's known as "the christian bible," and the best-selling book of all time.
They said not all christians believe Jesus is god, and they cited catholicism as an example, to which I brought up the Nicene creed and quotes from the pope. If one believes Jesus is christ, why would one reject what Jesus supposedly said about being the son and the father? What sense does a savior, messiah, christ make without the threat of punishment to save us from?
My position is that because there is no such thing as a real christ, there is no such thing as a real christian. Every one is a fake christian. They each interpret Jesus differently because no one today actually knows what he was like, and the accounts we have of his life contradict each other. The label has become so meaningless, I have no idea what someone actually believes when they say they are christian, but I know they are not thinking critically.
I think you're right, though. I wouldn't say a theist is a fake theist, I would say there's no reason to believe in god. I guess I should take the same approach when it comes to christ. I just wish I could splash cold water on humanity's face. Too many christians break out the "no true scotsman" fallacy when another christian disagrees with them or does something they don't like, failing to recognize that their own baseless views can be just as harmful, failing to recognize that they're normalizing the exact magical thinking they're criticizing. I want humans to stop playing make-believe when our lives are at stake.
I suppose "true believer" might be a correct term? I simply meant someone who believes in something (even if it's obviously not actually their book) rather than someone who is strictly using it to manipulate or fit in or what have you.
Yeah. I think I meant that I hate how many christians will apply the "no true scotsman" fallacy, pretending other interpretations are wrong and theirs is the right one when there is no right way to believe in something that doesn't exist. Everyone has their own headcanon out of necessity because there is no way to verify the contradictory claims made about christ.
I actually kind of envy those people because at least they believe that he will receive eternal punishment.
Instead he'll just rot in a fucking grave
I'm in the same boat, sort of. I was a true believer, but the words-in-red kind, not like this lot. Got all the way out just in time, and I could not be more relieved. I literally do not know how I'd still be functioning if I were still a believing Christian and this was somehow my own twisted circus-mirror faith being reflected back to me.
Knowing it's all a lie is a VAST relief.
I almost hope I'm wrong and there is a god so this guy does suffer eternal damnation