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I thought engineers and doctors were the better paid professions
Artists are incredibly well paid off you get to the top of the game, like Taylor Swift or Spielberg
Not sure why you think labourers are harder working than artists or engineers
The point is that they’re paid much worse than the C-suite who reap the benefits of other people’s hard work.
The c suite isn't in the example, but I wonder how many executives are engineers or scientists. But if an engineer is doctor enters the c suite, do they stop being engineers or doctors
They are 100% in the example, but rather implicitly than explicitly.
And the engineer or scientists C-suite are probably a small minority. Most are business majors.
I work in healthcare. Majority c-suite at hospitals, clinics, or practices have both a science masters or doctorate AND a business degree. Same goes for directors and most managers.
Healthcare is one of the largest industries. So you'd be excluding tens of thousands in Manager and above.
I don’t think you’ve seen the majority of C-suite in hospitals and other health centers just because you work in health care.
And it’s a large industry, but it’s only one among thousands.
So this is an assumption stacked on top of an assumption.
You've made a false assumption I've only worked at one hospital. I've work a several and I currently work for a health tech company and regularly communicate with operational and clinical leaders at multiple hospitals. Our software is currently in 2000+ hospitals in the US. Plus several thousand surgical clinics and infusion centers.
Did I make that assumption? Where?
The point is, even if you worked at several, it’s impossible to give an accurate estimate based on your own limited observations. Like you said, it’s a huge industry. I don’t mean to offend but I think a person working in health care should at least know a bit about levels of evidence and the like.
Running your software at a lot of places also doesn’t tell me much. You’ve made a failed argument from authority. No need to double down on it.
Again making assumptions.
There's no failed argument here. You're making false assumptions and stomping around like you're correct. You aren't.
Bottom line when it comes to health care the vast majority in leadership and c-suite positions have mainly science degrees (MD, PH.D, DPN, MRN, APRN, MRN) with most, but not all, having a business degree as well.
All you've proven is that you don't know how healthcare organizations work or are structured.
Tripling down isn’t going to help you.
I haven’t made any assumptions. All you’ve done is make assumptions that I’ve been making assumptions.
I get that you’ve met a bunch of health care C-suite. It’s just not that impressive. Your reiterated statement doesn’t tell us anything but the fact that you don’t understand what the basics of the levels of evidence that we use in medicine are. Nor what biases are, like your own confirmation bias.
If you're going to reiterate the same bullshit that has nothing to do with evidence based practice. I'll just reiterate my correct statement:
Bottom line when it comes to health care the vast majority in leadership and c-suite positions have mainly science degrees (MD, PH.D, DPN, MRN, APRN, MRN) with most, but not all, having a business degree as well.
FYI, if you look up any health organization, you'll see how many people have medical degrees. You clearly don't work in healthcare and clearly haven't communicated with anyone that does.
Honestly surprised I'm even carrying on this conversation with an obvious retard.
Your claim has nothing to do with evidence based practice. I never said it did. However the concept applies to a broader range than just clinical research or EBM. And if you claim to work in health care you should know something about it when working in health care and you should refrain from statements that go against this concept.
Bottom line is you haven’t provided any evidence for your claim. All you’ve done it restate a well-known logical fallacy like a broken record and pout when someone doesn’t immediately fall for it. I think:
…applies here.
I’m an MD, PhD, so actually yes, I do. You on the other hand, work for a software company that happens to provide software for health care facilities. So in fact, you do not. But all of that is irrelevant, since I don’t believe that either of us can tell this from our respective personal encounters with the C-suite.
If someone doesn’t believe your claim, you look for evidence backing that up. You don’t go telling someone they’re an idiot for not believing you. To show you how that may look, I will start:
So, now we have found an apparent expert – since neither of us are – it seems the cards are shuffling differently. He doesn’t provide any evidence either, so this brings us up to level C. If you have something better I wil gladly take a look.
And to humor you – because again, one health facility doesn’t say anything about the other thousands – I’ve looked up the executive team of the TMC and found one MD, one PhD and one MPH among a whole assortment of business majors, management and legal studies.
Maybe it’s time to drop your arrogance a bit. The fact that you can’t tell a doc from an obvious retard who obviously doesn’t work in health care isn’t doing you any favors.
You looked up TMC, which I now assume you work for. Don't believe your an MD, however. Well, here some more examples:
This is a small sample of some of the largest health organizations in the US. This also doesn't count the thousands of directors and department managers within those hospitals. All of which are going to have some science degree with the exception of legal, IT, EVS, Transport, and other non clinical positions.
This also doesn't count the thousands and thousands private practices and surgical clinics opened by a licensed practicing MD.
I didn't provide proof, because it's common knowledge. Something an MD, as you claim to be, should know just from experience. Unless of course you are either 1) lying, or 2) so limited in your own experience that you are projecting your own limited bias towards.
https://usingsources.fas.harvard.edu/exception-common-knowledge
FYI, yes I work for a health software company, however that doesn't mean I don't also have a science backed degree because working direct for a hospital sucks and patient care sucks even more. It's called I got out and can get paid more for less work. So my clinical and operational knowledge is then shared with other hospitals for 7 digit dollar contracts. Something you are limited in.
I do not. It’s really quite baffling how every single assumption you’ve made about me is false. If you flipped and landed a coin this many times people wouldn’t believe the odds. TMC was simply the first that came to mind as the largest in the US.
Another false assumption. I’ve not questioned your credentials, so let’s not start calling each other a liar because that inconveniences your credibility.
I’m not clicking on your examples, since they are meaningless and would be a waste of my time, like I’ve already said. I feel sorry for you wasting your time trying to find them. You asked me to look up any one. I did, like I said to humor you, not because I thought it meant anything.
Really? Maybe you can tell this guy who wrote
In a magazine called “Managed Healthcare”.
Oh, literally calling me a liar now. Nice. First “retard”, now liar. Calling me names and a liar is meaningless to me. I don’t know what corner of your dark triad I’ve tapped into to see you act like this, but it’s not a good look.
Didn’t I already tell you that both of our own experiences were irrelevant? I distinctly remember I did… but thanks for agreeing for a change.
So you do know what bias is. Now try to apply that elsewhere.
This was one of the most pompous and arrogant sections I’ve read in a long time. You’ve gone from helping people in need to preying on them, and apparently very proud of that. Maybe you and your hypercapitalism can find a place on Truth Social…
I never asked about your degree, nor am I interested. You said you work in health care, which – since I guess we’re down that road already I’ll say – was simply a lie. It doesn’t make you an expert and unless you can show me some data isn’t going to do anything. You can try and see if the Nth time around will suddenly change everything, the chance is never zero. But if you’re really looking to make an argument stick with me you’re going to have to do a little better than repeating the same thing over and over. Maybe you could apply that “science backed degree” a bit.
My company's CEO started was a software developer at the company...
They do stop being engineers and doctors, because now their job title is different? A doctor is someone that practices within their field, as with an engineer. They may still carry the qualification, and to a degree the skills necessary to be an engineer and doctor again, but that's not their job any longer, thus not the appropriate title.
Yes? If you stop doing engineering work, then you're not a practicing engineer.
(Unfortunately) you don't get paid for the work you put in, or else there'd be UBI. You only get paid for what you do, and sometimes not even that.
In terms of their skillset? Probably not immediately (skills may deteriorate due to lack of use over time). In terms of what they will be doing as part of the job, and how they use their skillset? To a certain degree, I would say yes.
I'm an engineer and I still can't afford a modest house. I'm paid well but I'm far from the biggest beneficiary of capitalism.
Labourers are harder working because they typically have longer hours and work some of the worst jobs.
You, sir, are daft.
Taylor Swift works hard by modern standards but she would sit in the corner and cry after a day doing the work that we make immigrants do
going up the classes is hard, especially so for those at the bottom.
You are talking out of your arse
You think she'd be ok after a 15 hour nursing home shift?
Tailor Swift and the likes are more capitalism than artistry.
When does one stop being an artist and turn into a capitalist
Well if you want to be really cynical you could say "when one gets successful enough," and that makes sense to me - at T Swift or Ed Sheeran's level of success, the global music tours make their workday a matter of planning things out and negotiating - and they're so successful that they have a bunch of people to do it for them already!! So it is at that point, where your workday goes from actually writing songs to just reusing what you've written.
Sensibly though, you could say they are both. People can be 2 things at once. One of the most famous "architects" in the world is Bjarke Ingels but he actually just owns the company; his training is in illustration rather than architectural design. He is a creative, and it informs his practice and what he actually approves, but a large part of being recognised as an architect is actually from doing the non-architect part of it.
The reason Mardukas specifically says Taylor Swift is more capitalist than musician though is something very precise to Taylor swift: her career was launched by her dad, a big finance guy, who pushed her work onto all his clients when she was just a kid. Taylor went from being marketed as a country musician to being a pop musician. He explicitly didn't want her to have to work very hard in life and felt confident he could engineer a following for her. She must be richer than him now, so it worked better than expected.
If you earn your musician wings from having them bought for you, you have not ascended the bardic steps to stardom, but floated up in a hot air balloon instead.
And some of the wealthiest people alive are also some of the dumbest losers I've ever heard open their mouths.
Doctors can do well, but I've never heard of a billionaire doctor. Engineers do well, but they're not billionaires. Both doctors and engineers work hard, but not in the same physically demanding, body-harming way that laborers work. Laborers can even be paid deceptively well, with construction labor sometimes paying something like triple the minimum wage. But the cost to the laborer is paid with body breaking down, and you can bet that job-site they're contracted for doesn't provide health insurance. So they accumulate injury, breaking down their body, thus limiting how much of that physically taxing job they can do. So, in effect, they're not being paid nearly enough. Because the pay doesn't compensate their loss of bodily function. Think of it like an NFL defensive lineman. They're paid very well, but their body takes a huge toll. A lot of former NFL players are not doing well, despite their huge initial earnings.
Just to add in, that a CEO definitely doesn't work as hard as their hardest working employee, and the avg. CEO pay is roughly 325 times that of their average worker.
Can we call them what they are; physicians. Calling them doctors undermines anyone with a Ph.D.
Their salaries are great in America but only as good as finance professionals, who are then in the system of money manipulation (not saying they're all crooks) and hence receive pointers on how to re-invest their wealth; Doctors and engineers on the other hand are often too busy to even think about investment, making more money from their money.
u think contrarians should be paid more?