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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 91 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Highly doubt. The Palestinian allegory to a Zionist would be cartoonist caricatures of rape and violence while the Isn'treal allegory would have been a pure place of light and peace.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The issue is that there is no utopia. If you make one, it instantly looks like a cover. "A place of pure light and peace" is hiding something. Even if the DM intended for it to be perfect, the players could certainly see it as a threat. Unless the DM breaks the fourth wall and explicitly tells them it's real, there's no way for the players to know that.

Then, when that place that has tons of resources is fighting some poor faction next door, it looks pretty damning. The same issue as above happens if you portray them as pure evil. There's no way they're actually that evil, and it must be propaganda.

This all happens even more if your players have been trained to spot these things because this is how the real world works.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 110 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

From OOP:

thats the thing he let us do all the worldbuilding at the outset and then decided that the capitalist u.s./cop city proxy we set up was actually an israel proxy that he was going to commandeer to be The Good Guys.

but it went straight over all our heads lmfao

So apparently he let them design the general layout, which had the authoritarian government and the rebels fighting them, and thought the ‘cop city’ they’d made sounded awesome and heroic and was totally the super-cool state of Israel, and the rebels were those dastardly Palestinians, and ran the campaign that way.

Don’t do religion, kids.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 14 hours ago

D.A.R.E. to say no to religion!

We have a recovery group that meets on Saturday mornings and Tuesday evenings at the bowling ally, you're welcome to join. It's called "Formerly Religious Anonymous," but if you want to speak at meetings, which you're strongly encouraged to do, then you're required to state your name, and if you don't follow the correct forms then we'll shun you. But it's not a cult, I swear.

Oh and you have to be entirely self-debasing if you want us to respect you. Just watch what others do and you'll catch the drift. You'll see what I mean. It's not a religion though!

spoiler/S

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That guy haven't watch star wars it seems.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Alright that makes sense and makes it comedy. I won't edit mt previous comment but I am doing a sicko yes rn

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think if that happened to me every marble in my brain would have dropped out too lol

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine not reading the room at all as a DM, or Idk, I have no idea how this happens. Online game maybe? I only play with friends so.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it was an online group. Everyone immediately quit lol

But seriously, forget real-world politics for a sec. How often in tabletop RPG history has the empire/police state/whathaveyou ever been the good guys and the rebels the bad? Had that DM never played a game before?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago

We didn't get to the end, but I played in a "Dragon Queen" campaign where we were protecting the kingdom from evil dragon-worshipping cultists.

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When you're dealing with a setting that is that clear-cut and obvious, you tend to have a situation where the place of light and peace is rotten at the core and has very effective propaganda, while the cartoonish violent rapists are often downtrodden victims whose suffering is made invisible.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But the Zionist wouldn't put that in there. They dont see that. "Theres no propaganda in America". Same shit. It'd be like playing one of those shitty American war porn films following Private Badass of The Good Guys.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

There's this thing in DND where there's a whole table of people and when the DM says 'you go into a tavern and see a mysterious stranger in a dark cloak half lit with moonlight lighting up a pipe you catch a small glimpse of his rugged face, the other patrons look uneasy at his presence... also that's a gnome called Gifgledork picking his nose at the bar' the party will almost always go 'we ignore The Dark Ranger of Mystery, and spend all night buying drinks for our new best friend Gifgledork. If he set up a 'The Good Guys' power structure the players could have all easily decided said good guys were secretly evil and opposed them at every turn. I had a party once INSIST on eating the two birds in a glade I put there as guides to help them get through the trials of the area for plot reasons. they killed and ate the guardian forest birds... it was incredibly upsetting to decide that eating ancient forest guardians probably gave them cool powers. but playing the game is about playing the game and letting your party have fun is more important than playing YOUR game. and when you add in stuff you're excited about, sometimes the party says fuck that and intentionally sets your bread crumbs on fire and walks into the forest with no hints and finds a witch that makes wooden coins that are bewitched to look like real money. for no reason at all. Is really dumb to go at it with your personal feelings all deeply attached to every plot point.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago

Precisely. It's why I like Pathfinder so much. The only good guys are the Firebrands, the Bellflower Network, and other liberatory NGOs that are fighting against government. Even the "good guy" nation of Andoran has corruption and powerful conglomerates that influence the government

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sounds like that would be a pretty bad dungeon master though.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 18 points 1 day ago

I can hear the "no, you can't have that. It was promised to the people of the light 3000 years ago. Just take the quest reward I made for you"