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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 35 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

The corporate liberals are gutting taxes on private jets, yachts and unused housing while Mark Carney is telling struggling canadians to make sacrifices.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 36 points 4 weeks ago

It's a very conservative-ish budget. The liberals are now the conservatives, and the conservatives are now the anti-christ.

[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

oh and don't forget they also want to give $1billion to AI development over the next 5 years.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah, that we are already benefiting enormously economically from our early investments in AI, it would be dumb not to continue, especially at a time when the US is scaring away many top international researchers.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 8 points 4 weeks ago

I kept reading on here how Carney was such a smart choice, because of his work with the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England. Not like that job scream "fucking over the poor" or anything... /s

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 weeks ago (14 children)

It's absolutely horrible. How disconnected are these fucking people???

I told everyone on here that voting in Mark Carney was going to be a big mistake. I was right. Yet, there are still people on here saying "give him a chance, he's the best option we have". No. actually. He's not, and I see what happens when we "give him a chance"?? He fucks average Canadians over for the benefit of the rich.

They're stuck in this 80's Reagan-Thatcher-Mulroney era of neo-liberalism trickle down bullshit and they can't see outside that fucking box.

[–] Amuletta@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

What was the alternative? I would have loved to vote NDP, and usually do in local elections, but they stood no chance. I wasn't so much voting for Carney as against Poilievre.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Withhold your volunteering and donating to the liberals since they already get so much money from the rich consistently. They will always put their interests before everyday canadians.

Strategically vote if you have to and redirect your efforts to the independents, fairvote and smaller parties.

[–] Amuletta@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 weeks ago

Who says I donate and volunteer??? I have never done that for any political party.

[–] Solano@piefed.social 0 points 4 weeks ago

I think that is the point. The establishment can force a person in when the other is straight up evil.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Okay, and Pollievre would be better?

Singh was completely cooked since the 2021 election, running him again and with such poor messaging was entirely the NDP’s fault. It was not fear-mongering.

Singh’s numbers had been publicly decreasing for years, he lost seats in past elections, and the NDP decided to run a ton of single issue candidates run whose whole platform was Palestine.

Meanwhile the party quietly did have a decent pro middle class platform, but didn’t really message that and got too caught up on how tax cuts also affect the rich (up to a very small amount of their income).

I’m sorry but there was only one choice this election. I would have loved a real NDP choice, they chose not to.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Maybe canada should stop preaching about human right values if they still support the longest standing occupation in the world. NPD platform was not about palestine only. Outside of the debate npd never talked about Palestine in the compaign

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 weeks ago

The NDP isn't just Singh. There's a whole team behind him. And at least his heart's at the right place.

Again, a minority conservative government with a strong NDP would've been better than an entirely conservative government like the one we have right now. (Fiscally conservative + morally conservative)

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 weeks ago (11 children)

Voting for the Conservatives was going to be an even bigger mistake.

No idea why you think the Liberals were the worst of the two options available.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

There's more than two options. This isn't the U.S.

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[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean what choice did we have? we didn't. It was either a conservative in a liberal furry suit, A wanna-be apple munching trump, or a guy that has never had an original thought pass through his head.

We were fucked. we realized we were fucked. And we decided the fake liberal was the way to go. Canadian politics are so fucked our choices are conservative, ultra conservative, or a weak wannabe democrat party.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a third, even fourth option. A strong NDP in a minority government would've gone a long way.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 4 weeks ago

In a minority Liberal government, perhaps. I don't see a Conservative minority government being particularly interested in working with the NDP.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 8 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Only two parties were realistically capable of forming a government in that election. One was led by Carney, the other by Pollievre.

You're saying going with the Carney option was a "big mistake?"

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[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

“give him a chance, he’s the best option we have”. No. actually. He’s not

What was the better option?

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (11 children)

Unfortunately they weren't an option though. NDP members even encouraged NDP voters to vote Liberal to stop the Conservatives. The NDP should have been an option, but they weren't. The NDP were only an "option" this election in the same way the Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada or the Animal Protection Party were options; they exist.

I have hopes (probably unrealistic) that the NDP comes back swinging HARD, screaming about social services, programs, and taxes on the wealthy, and not shutting up leading up to 2029. I hope Mamdani in NY can prove in his first 3 months leading up to when the NDP has their leadership vote that if social programs can work in the US, we can significantly increase those structures here.

The NDP can be relevent again for the next election (I hope), but they just weren't for this last one.

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[–] Amuletta@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They stood no realistic chance of getting in.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Yea, says who? It’s not a probability thing and our voting system might suck but if they get more votes then they win and that’s the end of it. Vote for whoever aligns with your values or don’t show up and definitely keep your mouth shut when the center-right government that stole your vote starts doing exactly what any dumbass could have predicted they’d do.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 4 weeks ago

I voted for them in a historically ndp riding. Now have a liberal representative who lives half an hour away

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The NDP. Even under Jagmeet we would've had a better deal than this shit consevative sandwich that we have right now.

[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Better? Yes. An option? Unfortunately no, not this election.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Think about it. Singh gets elected as prime minster, even with a NDP minority. Imagine the meltdown Trump would have over this. I think this would have forced Canada to make deals with other nations and quickly closed our relationship with the fascist regime down south. We also wouldn't have had sent weapons, vehicles and parts to Israel because he was a defender of the Palestinian cause and against the genocide. This would have rocked the political world for the best in my opinion.

[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 weeks ago

I'd love the dream too, but it just wasn't there this time. I'm curious how things would have gone if fascism hadn't taken root, but it did, and it changed the game for this election.

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