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voting is rigged so no one technically gets the day they voted for except the ones owning the voting machines
If the machines are rigged in favor of one candidate, then the people who actually voted for that candidate still do get what they voted for. But the voting population as a whole doesn't.
Until that is a proven fact, we need to show up and vote. Speculation isn’t fact, and neither is numerology.
You could just vote with paper and actually count. You don’t have to use machines owned by lobbying multibillionaires.
Ok and what do you propose about people who will lie about their count because there's always going to be that shit
You count the votes in public in front of representatives of all parties?
We’ve been doing this shit for literal millennia, sometimes side by side with people you were fighting just a few weeks before. It’s not fucking rocket science. My country will happily send observers and instructors if you need help figuring this democracy shit out. So will pretty much any other country in the UN.
You guys need to get this shit sorted, pronto.
Pedantic
It’s not pedantic to insist that your democracy is predicated upon a simple and easy to audit mechanism. In fact, it’s essential.
It’s how many advanced democracies do it. Electronic voting is just the illusion of modernity.
Pedantic to mention it because “showing up” can be a term for “doing it” and doesn’t literally mean a physical presence at a voting boot.
who did own the machines
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Voting_Systems
who now own the machines
https://www.npr.org/2025/10/11/nx-s1-5570868/analyzing-dominion-voting-systems-sale-to-firm-run-by-ex-republican-elections-official
https://libertyvote.com/
I’m not reading that because you don’t understand my comments. The direction you are going with this is not at all the intended direction of the comment. You are changing the conversation into something else because you do Not comprehend.
Nooo it's not rigging it's "gerrymandering" and we weren't bribed to allow that it's "lobbying."