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[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 17 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Until that is a proven fact, we need to show up and vote. Speculation isn’t fact, and neither is numerology.

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

You could just vote with paper and actually count. You don’t have to use machines owned by lobbying multibillionaires.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok and what do you propose about people who will lie about their count because there's always going to be that shit

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You count the votes in public in front of representatives of all parties?

We’ve been doing this shit for literal millennia, sometimes side by side with people you were fighting just a few weeks before. It’s not fucking rocket science. My country will happily send observers and instructors if you need help figuring this democracy shit out. So will pretty much any other country in the UN.

You guys need to get this shit sorted, pronto.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe -3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Pedantic

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s not pedantic to insist that your democracy is predicated upon a simple and easy to audit mechanism. In fact, it’s essential.

It’s how many advanced democracies do it. Electronic voting is just the illusion of modernity.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 4 points 4 weeks ago

Pedantic to mention it because “showing up” can be a term for “doing it” and doesn’t literally mean a physical presence at a voting boot.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

who did own the machines

Dominion Voting Systems Corporation was a North American[2] company that produced and sold electronic voting hardware and software, including voting machines and tabulators, in Canada and the United States.[3] In 2025, Scott Leiendecker purchased the company under a new company called Liberty Vote.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Voting_Systems

who now own the machines

Dominion Voting Systems has been sold to Liberty Vote.

https://www.npr.org/2025/10/11/nx-s1-5570868/analyzing-dominion-voting-systems-sale-to-firm-run-by-ex-republican-elections-official

Our Promise.

My Fellow Americans,

Today, I am proud to announce Liberty Vote — a 100% American‐owned election technology company dedicated to restoring trust in our elections. Our mission is clear: every vote must be secure, fair, and verifiable.

I have spent my life working to strengthen America's elections. That commitment began years ago, in the aftermath of the 2000 election, when I worked for the Missouri Secretary of State. Later, as Election Director in St. Louis, I led the effort to modernize outdated systems and rebuild public trust. Eventually, I founded an election technology company that today serves nearly one in four voters nationwide.

With Liberty Vote, we are building on that legacy. We are turning the page and beginning the vital work of restoring faith in American elections. While these changes will not happen overnight, Liberty Vote's mission is rooted in American values and committed to transparency, independent audits, and verifiable paper records.

Our purpose is simple: to ensure that America's elections are secure, fair, and honest.

Scott Leiendecker

Founder and Chairman, Liberty Vote

https://libertyvote.com/

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe -1 points 4 weeks ago

I’m not reading that because you don’t understand my comments. The direction you are going with this is not at all the intended direction of the comment. You are changing the conversation into something else because you do Not comprehend.