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I wouldn't vote for Gavin if he was the Democratic candidate. He is just as horrible as the other Democrats.
We need true change and true leaders that will change the government to work for the working class instead of the wealthy.
Trump 3.0 here we come
For fuck's sake, you people are so ridiculous. It's like you don't even care what Trump is doing to the country. Fuck any "progressive" who helped bring him back to power.
AOC is over 35...
Yeah. They’ve already turned on her here. Lemmy keeps pushing further and further left that anyone right of Stalin is a fascist MAGA conservative.
So who would you vote for? JD Vance? Or you throwing your vote away and letting JD Vance win anyway?
So even before the primary we can only choose Vance or Newsom huh. Can you make this into a trolley problem I can visualize?
No one said anything about Vance.
This has to stop. You CANNOT ignore the Republican opponent. It's fucking ridiculous. Why do you not apply ANY scrutiny to the Republican candidate? You know they take when the Democrat loses, right?
Who do think is running in place of Trump? The name is irrelevant. It is the Republican nominee. They are all complicit in genocide it doesn’t matter who it is. It will be the democrats and the republicans. Any other party is a vote for maga.
Are you that naive to think otherwise?
Naive is when Americans are corralled to think into the way that you are thinking now. Why is it no one mentioned about primary-ing progressive alternative to Newsom? Everyone quickly assumed it's Vance and Newsom immediately in the next presidential election.
Because therr is no one else running. Where is your candidacy announcement?
Why do you think Vance and Newsom are running? Where is your candidacy announcement? Americans are so pacified by their media.
If a candidate wins, the blame doesn't go on those who didn't vote for them.
There's way more blame on you for supporting a bad candidate despite people on your side telling you clearly and well ahead of time that they are not voting for them. You voted for a nonviable candidate, you're the one who wasted your vote.
We don't owe the Democrats any votes just because they aren't Trump. They must earn it. We don't accept that we should vote for "the lesser evil" so you can keep your privileged life comfortable, while throwing us vulnerable minorities under the bus.
You are confusing the democratic primary with the presidential election. I don’t support Gavin Newsome. However if my choice is a Republican or him I choose him. Not sure where you live but if you’re American you’re severely misinformed about how our system works. My guess is you voted third party then last year and essentially approved the genocide by Israel since trump blatantly said he supports then.
You're the confused one, unfortunately. You're just regurgitating Democratic party nonsense.
By voting for a lesser evil, you are still in fact voting for evil, and you're okay with it because at least the lesser evil doesn't touch you and yours. You don't give a shit about minorites and the poor the Democrats use as rhetoric and abuse, you don't care about the illegal war crimes funded by your tax dollars, you don't care about genocides of brown people, they don't affect you and that's good enough for you.
If you had principals and you stuck to them, you'd vote for a candidate that upholds those principals, not just talks about them around elections. By voting for whatever the Democrats force down your throat, you reward the neo-liberal machine and keep it in power. You're not saving the country, you're not saving your children's future, you're just giving yourself a little bit more comfortable life, and damned by the consequences.
You blame us for refusing to vote for a candidate that promised to kill more and more of our people, and you're confused why we don't see it your way. We don't get the benefit of your lesser evil, because it's evil to us.
Vote for your lesser evil, they'll lose again because we're again telling you loudly we'll not settle at the cost of our children being shredded to pieces by you party's bombs, and again you're to blame for the eventual result: fascist takeover.
And this is all assuming it hasn't happened yet and there will be free elections anymore, and I'm not convinced you'll have a true choice next time anyway.