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[โ€“] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I get it, you think the baseline that other modern countries give in regards to childcare, time off, and other child related subsidies is a "privilege" too far in the US (ie: not with my tax money). I would say that except for maybe Iceland most modern countries need to do more. The US is way behind.

We were done a long time ago, you can't twist my words into your fucked up argument no matter how hard you try. You said it was a lie, that is false.

You othered the 100k family. You are just in denial at this point. That is okay. Now you try to other me as well saying that I made all this money. We were surviving on a less than 40k a year at the time. This is the reality for most people that have kids.

Now it is my turn to other you. You are in the top 10% of households. To hear a top earner lecture me about privilege is a bridge too far. To know you payed someone poverty wages to watch your kids is pathetic. You are just another boot licking capitalist in denial.

First you balk at using "taxes" to help out crying fowl and then suggest some kind of UBI for poor people with kids. Where the fuck do you think the money would come from!? You are so confused I am surprised you know how to get out of bed in the morning.

Please spend the next year deprogramming yourself and developing real opinions. Using conservative talking points and then trying to pretend you give a fuck is mind glaringly stupid.

[โ€“] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 30 minutes ago)

It is a fucking lie. Women historically worked FOR MONEY, and you still deny them credit for it to fit your agenda.

5+ years of government paid income to every single household with children is not the standard anywhere. Some European governments give ONE year. You are misrepresenting facts again. And yes, I could get behind some kind of additional welfare for children in poverty, but I don't think it needs to be universal. My children don't need welfare checks. Nor do any of my neighbors' children. Nor do I really believe that yours do; your irresponsibility in representing other numbers makes me doubt the veracity of your own income claims.

The $100k family, my family members, who choose to live their ideology about a woman's role in the family and outsource the consequences of that decision to the rest of their family/ our family without the family's consent do excite my frustration, yes. Their repeated poor decisions about money and then expectation that they will be relieved of the consequences of those decision is extremely frustrating. But they are inherently not other. They are blood relations and part of me. Your personal judgments about me continue to be wildly off base.

Are you now going to demonize us for paying for childcare? You have no idea what we paid. We organized a harassment campaign at the first corporate daycare we went to, to get the corporation to pay the staff more and fund their certifications so they would quit leaving. Then we took our business to a non profit daycare, that charged nothing to poor families, and we paid full price, but left because they barely had any kids there. Then we went to a local chain that pays their staff some of the best rates in region.

I don't know if you noticed, but the rest of the world is getting tired of funding the US's mountain of debt. And you can tax me more, that's fine. And you can certainly close all the loopholes for the assholes at the top. But when the rest of the world dumps the dollar, we won't be able to just make up money and inflate our problems away. We'll only be able to provide services we can actually pay for. And the amount of money you're asking for is huge. If you say 11 million people stay home and that is a quarter of families, then your asking for income for 44 million more people for at least 5 years each. What kind of income are you looking for? $30k/yr/ person? That's $1.3 trillion per year. And if you scoff and say that's not what you said, it's because you conveniently left out any specifics to your demand, so I tried to sketch out what you might mean.