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It is a fucking lie. Women historically worked FOR MONEY, and you still deny them credit for it to fit your agenda.
5+ years of government paid income to every single household with children is not the standard anywhere. Some European governments give ONE year. You are misrepresenting facts again. And yes, I could get behind some kind of additional welfare for children in poverty, but I don't think it needs to be universal. My children don't need welfare checks. Nor do any of my neighbors' children. Nor do I really believe that yours do; your irresponsibility in representing other numbers makes me doubt the veracity of your own income claims.
The $100k family, my family members, who choose to live their ideology about a woman's role in the family and outsource the consequences of that decision to the rest of their family/ our family without the family's consent do excite my frustration, yes. Their repeated poor decisions about money and then expectation that they will be relieved of the consequences of those decision is extremely frustrating. But they are inherently not other. They are blood relations and part of me. Your personal judgments about me continue to be wildly off base.
Are you now going to demonize us for paying for childcare? You have no idea what we paid. We organized a harassment campaign at the first corporate daycare we went to, to get the corporation to pay the staff more and fund their certifications so they would quit leaving. Then we took our business to a non profit daycare, that charged nothing to poor families, and we paid full price, but left because they barely had any kids there. Then we went to a local chain that pays their staff some of the best rates in region.
I don't know if you noticed, but the rest of the world is getting tired of funding the US's mountain of debt. And you can tax me more, that's fine. And you can certainly close all the loopholes for the assholes at the top. But when the rest of the world dumps the dollar, we won't be able to just make up money and inflate our problems away. We'll only be able to provide services we can actually pay for. And the amount of money you're asking for is huge. If you say 11 million people stay home and that is a quarter of families, then your asking for income for 44 million more people for at least 5 years each. What kind of income are you looking for? $30k/yr/ person? That's $1.3 trillion per year. And if you scoff and say that's not what you said, it's because you conveniently left out any specifics to your demand, so I tried to sketch out what you might mean.
I never said women didn't work for money. Where in the hell are you pulling this from!?
Where did I say 5 years of pay!? You just can't help yourself I guess.
Listening to you try to justify warehousing your kids is interesting. It makes me grateful that me and my wife sacrificed so we could raise our own children. Demonize!? Lol, no just judging you in a lesson on othering. It is sobering to hear you other your own family though.
Frankly, saying you can't raise a family on 100k without asking for handouts is the very definition of privilege. I suppose I don't know where they live, but unless it is a very expensive place I have a hard time understanding how they struggle. Of course I was raised by a single mother so I know what it is like to eat ramen for every meal and live in substandard housing.
In case you didn't notice the US is fucked but it is mostly the fault of the "fiscal conservatives" who love to run up the debt while pretending it is the progressives fault. If you have a solution to this problem besides austerity I am all ears.
The reality is the US is an empire in decline and the moment the dollar stops being the primary reserve currency the entire system will crash just as it has several times in history (Spain, Dutch, and English most recently).
I didn't demand anything and if I did I certainly wouldn't waste time talking about it with a conservative.
Sigh. I came to Lemmy thinking it was small enough to be populated with real people who would have real policy discussions. But I see now that I've just been taken in by a troll. Kudos to you. You seem like a real person and not a bot, so I hope you enjoy the descent into chaos you have spurned.
I will pass on the policy discussion you started involving making up things I said. To be frank, you have handled yourself like an idiot. You could have easily summarized your position as, "I hate kept women." Good for you I guess.
You are definitely the problem and not the solution. You will never be able to go anywhere to solve the problem because you are it.