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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Is Greta becoming a martyr for the cause knowing full well white people will only care if they kill one of their own? Goddamn. 😔

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Will they care about a climate activist, though? I know too many people who would applaud her disappearance.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get the impression that she's just doing what she thinks is right, and that the reason she is doing it is because she can.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It is right. Ayaya, poor Greta will suffer in this life when she could be living large and easy in Northern Europe but, if my religious beliefs are true, she will be rewarded for it in the next one. Personally, I'm too cowardly and selfish to do any of the things Greta has been up to.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Why would you be cowardly if you knew you were going to be rewarded with paradise?

That's what I don't understand about theists. It just sounds to me like you're not sold on your belief system.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Do you think that people who believe in God KNOW?! It's belief in the unseen, my guy, a leap of faith INTO faith which takes both effort and courage, and an Israeli missile/bullets don't require that and trigger your survival instincts. You're understanding things in a very intellectually limited "black and white" way, detached from the human experience and all notions of epistemology...

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 15 hours ago

It's true, I haven't delved very deeply into the musings of most works of fiction.

You say you have faith in your belief system, but you don't have that much faith if you're worried about dying.

[–] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, OP is right. A believe is the idea that something is true, even if there is no factual base for it.

It is an act of strength and courage to renounce religion, rather than to delve deeper into that madness.

Admitting a person lied to themselves is really hard. Look at all the motherfuckers who killed themselves and others for some god. They are the cowards.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Even morality cannot just be reasoned into, since moral "shoulds" don't follow from factual "ares" (check Hume's fork, or the "is-ought" problem, for an easy explanation). Every belief of these natures is something you either take or not. And "religion" is doing a lot of work here and is inappropriate. I understand dismissing many belief sets and ideologies because they contradict either reality or your own moral codes, and I also understand having a bad after taste for all beliefs because of a negative experience with one (I felt this way myself for about two decades!), but the latter simply doesn't follow logically. And to each their own, of course.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is an interesting schtick.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For better or for worse I do post here in full honesty, and if you knew me IRL you'd understand I am indeed a very yappy religious man, lol.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago
[–] runblack@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I might have met you in Rotterdam.

No, I think you met another annoying monotheist. 😅

[–] Mammal@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Americans are okay with their own children being shot in schools. They are hardly going to give a shit about a woke communist Yurpean trying to prevent a genocide.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Most Americans I know are furious over the genocide but entirely powerless to stop it.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 18 hours ago

I wish I could say that. I'm in a deep red area, and at best I get mild indifference, and many are near-to masturbating over the glory of israel, god's chosen people.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -5 points 14 hours ago

^^^ Ghoul hoping for someone to die.

I generally think of the anti-Israel movement as a hate group, but now you're edging towards being a suicide cult.

[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Nah, most see her as a rebel uneducated teen and the others don't even know her. Her death won't make any difference, because EU already condemned the flotilla, virtually signing her murder.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rachel Corrie didn't manage to change much.

Every bit helps? Sadly, I didn't even know about Mme Corrie, but maybe Greta's effort will have more reach? Gotta stay hopeful!

[–] mateofeo85@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She’ll either die a martyr or live long enough to become corrupt.

That's more than many who never even tried to be righteous and selfless and have only ever thought about themselves and the bag, lol. Perhaps even more than you, Mateo!