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[–] orclev@lemmy.world 184 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

The records seem to indicate it was used as part of the island's reverse osmosis water treatment system. There I saved you a click.

[–] idyllic@leminal.space 4 points 5 hours ago

It may not be for dissolving bodies. But since the timing is suspect and indicative of some coverup, I would guess probably destroying trace DNA evidences.

[–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 86 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

I kind of consider that to be plausible. 330 gallons sounds like a lot but it's only 6 barrels and there's way more effective ways to get rid of bodies (which I think is the implication). Also, justice isn't being achieved, not because of lack of evidence here, but because disgusting crimes are being covered up, and disgusting people being protected. I'm ok focusing on "why aren't any men in jail for this right now?"

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The volume is a tote, aka an IBC container

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_bulk_container

Super common and readily available for both legitimate and/or illegal purposes.

[–] commie_rogers@lemmy.ml 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Document specifically states 6 55-gal drums.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Must not have a forklift on the island in that case

[–] commie_rogers@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 58 minutes ago)

Non sequitir.

The presence of an IBC tote would imply the presence of some equipment necessary to move it (at least a pallet jack, possibly a forklift), maybe.

However, the inverse does not follow: absence of a tote does not imply the absence of the equipment needed to move one. The presence or absence of the equipment is logically independent of the absence of the equipment (even though it would be be implied by the presence of the equipment).

This is called denying the antecedent. In symbolic terms:

Conditional: p → q
Inverse: ¬p → ¬q

(p → q) → (¬p → ¬q) is False.

If you're going to make claims on the Internet, it's worth learning at least a little propositional logic.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't realize there were tall ibc totes, I thought they were all 1000L/265gal

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 0 points 13 hours ago

Which is ~3.5 foot-bathtubs or 7 MFM...Mega-Foot-Mugs or 35panda-feet or 35 pizza ft ~65watermelons per apple feet. I asked Mr Chat for these actual units, so likely to be all wrong. Things were looking credible until pizza ft. Darn!

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 30 points 19 hours ago

Also you’d buy in bulk because the cost of delivery is probably the same.

[–] epicthundercat@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

We wouldnt have to speculate if the DOJ would do their job in a way that allows the population to trust them. We dont get that though, so we have to be the justice ourselves to a degree by demanding total transparency and that also means questioning to ensure information comes out if its there. Thats my take.

People are being left to fill in the gaps and that causes mass confusion and makes people question real evidence. Its not okay

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I think their job is to cover it up and they're doing it well.

[–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I don't disagree at all. The process we're forced to go through because we seem to be the only ones that care is maddening

[–] epicthundercat@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Its so depressing, honestly and its purposeful. They want confusion. The American government is pretty damn good at Gaslighting and confusing the public, honestly... It wouldnt be the first time... and I have never been one of those tinfoil hat types. You can even go back and think about the Tuskegee experiment, MKUltra ect... among others... Its messed up how much they view us as manipulatable pawns... and this isnt to say other Governments dont engage in similar crap, too but ours is pretty dang experienced in the art of deception now.

P.S. MK Ultra feels cheesy to bring up at all due to the stigma but it happened and its messed up but its an example of purposeful manipulation.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

The plausibly only makes it well hidden, if it wasn't used for that.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yea seems a lot easier to just take a body out to sea and drop it. They won't even know where it ends up between the depth and the currents. I doubt a body would even last that long on the sea bed.

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but you would need some kinda trap door that leads directly to the ocean for that in your own house.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I never said the body had to be in one piece. For all we know Jeffrey could have been an avid fisherman.

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 3 points 17 hours ago

Or really small, like child size.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 4 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I think it'd be a shit way to get rid of bodies unless maybe if it was just bones. Fat and soft tissue would probably need a strong base like sodium hydroxide to break down - which is why it's used for making soap

[–] idyllic@leminal.space 1 points 5 hours ago

trace DNA evidences?

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Nitric acid would be better. But apparently sulfuric acid and highly concentrated hydrogen peroxide works well. Look up piranha solution.

But on an island, I would think a large barrel, concrete, and some very deep water would be sufficient.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

If anyone wants to see this in action, one of the Mythbusters Breaking Bad specials test out the bathtub dissolving thing from season 1. In the show they use hydrofluoric acid, but that doesn't work and they move to harder stuff. They don't actually say it's piranha solution, cause Discovery probably wouldn't wanna let them teach people how to get rid of bodies, but they say sulfuric acid and something else "with a lot of oxygen" wink wink

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 11 hours ago

If there was a massive order for hydrogen peroxide I'd believe piranha solution was used for these purposes

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 24 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

It’s also, like not even that much for this kind of janitorial purpose. To add to that, while it sounds insidious, sulphuric acid isn’t the nefarious thing it sounds like.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

My first thought went to scrubbing things like iron and calcium stains.

[–] xkbx@startrek.website 3 points 19 hours ago

Do you mind if your second thought goes to scrubbing my dishes? I’ll pay it in b12 or whatever brains like

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Some people said when it's mixed with other things it becomes quite potent. I'm not gonna Google it.

[–] Stabbitha@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Pretty much everything can become quite potent when mixed with other things. There are so many better ways to dispose of bodies than having acid delivered to an island.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It makes chlorine gas when mixed with bleach.

Point is buying something for your pool in bulk isn’t really a red flag, especially on an island that doesn’t have a pool supply store.

I’m certainly not trying to defend Epstein or anything, but this isn’t the worrysome thing.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

As in mix to make something nefarious. To dissolve things.

And if you wanted to do something nefarious, you'd try to hide it as something that can be explained away. You know, as pool supplies.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You're right criminals would never think to hide their activities. That's crazy talk. Now let's talk about that weirdly profitable car wash.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 4 points 16 hours ago

What other proof do you have that they were dissolving bodies? Because that’s the implication in the “scariness” of sulfuric acid, right?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

Great cover story. At this point, no conspiracy theory is crazy enough to not be true.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

My RO doesn't have any chemical consumables.. Any idea why?

[–] YerbaYerba@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago

It prevents calcium carbonate buildup on the RO membrane. The acid is added to the incoming sea water to keep it slightly acidic.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Might depend on the source water. The article mentions it's used for water softening so if you're starting with water that has low mineral content maybe it's an unnecessary step.

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I heard someone say on a podcast that 330 gallons would last about 15 years. I haven't fact checked that and AI wouldn't touch it, lol.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

I think that would very much depend on the size of the system. If you're processing a gallon of water a day that's probably true, but if you're doing like 60 gallons a day probably not so much. It sounds like he had a reverse osmosis plant in the island that likely supplied all the water in the island so probably even for things like showers and maybe even swimming pools (I assume he had a swimming pool, it sounds right for a rich douchebag like him).