Technology

Eich was a failure. He sat on e10s for years while Chrome continued gaining marketshare. The path to monetization is something he says he wanted to do at Mozilla but did at Brave instead.

At Brave, he started with a Gecko offshoot but couldn't make it work and retreated to Chromium.

Its not astroturfing, it's that people have expectations of them beyond just being a browser that let's you access the web.

Frankly its not that great of a browser (its serviceable. And I use it, or a derivative, pretty much exclusively); generally the reason you use it is because you care about abstract things like not supporting the chromium monopoly, or wanting to pick the project managed with the most care for how it will impact actual humans

And Mozilla has been making kinda crummy choices with respects to those abstract values more and more regularly it feels like 😅

Like I really wanna love and support Mozilla. I'm using their browser cause I think its the best choice by the metrics that are important to me. And more and more I just feel kinda exhausted and kinda frustrated with them 😅

Dear Rust developer,

Not every critique of a technology you like is "FUD". In fact, crypto-bros and AI-bros also made the term "FUD" meaningless.

Eh, I'm not about to stop using Firefox, but the complaint is valid. They nuked a bunch of work from volunteers without notice in favor of shitty auto translate.

I'd say that's because here on Lemmy, we already don't give a fuck about and wouldn't touch Chrome or Edge with a ten foot pole, but some of us trusted Mozzila, which is now starting to do dumb AI shit. And having your trust broken hurts.

Astroturfing would not be recommending LibreWolf as an alternative.

If you look into alternatives, Brave is one that's usually mentioned but there's always someone quickly posting all of the dumb shit they did.

The way they are forcing AI on everyone and into every aspect of their browser especially when a large part of the people who use Firefox hates that shit is going to end Firefox.

The reason you don't hear it about all those other browsers is because people have always known they don't give a fuck what the end user wants.

Firefox used to be different. But all good things deteriorate over time. Watching it happen in real time to a browser we all use and used to love is why you see it so much posted especially in places with like minded individuals like Lemmy.

Yeah, I am astroturfing. It can't be that I actually believed Mozilla when they said that localizers were heroic.

What an odd comparison. What differentiates Mozilla from others is their close relationship with their community. Just read their manifest and you will see Immediately why they are getting flag for humiliating their own supporters.

Almost all Microsoft KB articles are machine translated.
Every time I open a reddit article from a search it attempts to auto-translate which immediately looks and reads very inhuman.

Put it this way, I don't trust a corpo browser and never have. 2008 or whenever it was that everyone switched to Chrome, I stayed with Firefox, which I'd been using for a few years already. I remember upgrading to Firefox 2.0.

I'm interested when Firefox is pulling this shit and don't give a fuck otherwise, because I already assume the others do this.

Idk if we'll ever get anything decent out of the Servo browser engine. That would be ideal IMO. Mozilla is starting to become part of the problem.

If I had to post an article here for each time Chrome did something that worked against privacy, I would just repost Ggle's changelogs. And they would not change.

If we criticise Mozilla harshly enough, there's a chance slightly higher than an snowball's chance in hell to make them change.

Calling objections to what some unelected jerks in the foundation (which is a supposedly public organization) are doing is not "anti-Mozilla". And I would first suspect of astroturfing everyone pretending it is.

Raising voices and putting pressure about things spoiling something is caring about it. And yes, people who care try to make real effect and not just safely complain to be ignored.

Mozilla honestly has been becoming worse and worse since Australis.

that tonedeaf response of the mozilla staff boils my blood. holy fuck. i hate mozilla so much for years already but in recent times it got so much worse. cant wait to switch to ladybird or other alternatives in the future.

Is it anti Firefox progranda to literally criticize them for reopening human contributed content with lesser quality AI generated one?

Your response to that criticism is to bring up another topic (Firefox being open source) and calling everyone idiots?

I still use Firefox every day, but I don't trust the corporate overlords to do what's right long term. They seem to be getting greedy instead of listening to the user base. They've started including AI bullshit features for the sake of it, like grouping tabs by content that nobody asked for and that barely works for me. I'm not anti-Mozilla, but I sure am weary of it and would welcome an alternative.

I haven't come across any open source comments, but those seem pretty clueless.

Why the fuck is lemmy so chuck full of anti Fiirefox and anti Mozilla propaganda?

Because everyone here uses it. What else are they going to complain about?

It's just going to line the pockets of executives.

They have the money. They choose not to spend it.

Not terrible idea? Did you heard about ai japanase localization disaster?

That depends on your understanting of "professional". Firefox has forks out here, LibreWolf for example, that removes the AI "features" and other bullshit that crept inside vanilla Firefox