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[–] eightys3v3n@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

English is three languages in a trench coat acting like one.

[–] 667@lemmy.radio 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Mac@mander.xyz 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"It's" specifically is funny because you can use its alternative version "'tis" in some places that you cant use "it's".

[–] Zorcron@piefed.zip 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] bonenode@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago

Tits what tis.

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Monty Python: It's.

Let me teach you a thing: "have" can be "'ve" if it is an auxiliary verb. Ta-daah.

I can't help you or your fucky language with "'m" or "'s" or "'re".

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have an apple - in this sentence, "have" is the main verb.

I have bought an apple - here, "to buy" is the main verb, the main action, while "have" is the auxiliary verb that lets you form the past tense "have bought". The word "auxiliary" means helpful or supportive, an auxiliary verb supports, as it were, the main verb.

[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Except you can most certainly say, "I've an apple."

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You can, but would you? It sounds old-timey because it's not how modern English works.

[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

lol, really?

I've an apple in one hand, and I've an orange in the other.
I've modernity all over me.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It seems like this usage has survived in British dialects more than elsewhere, I'll give you that.

[–] sik0fewl@piefed.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Texas, too. But having a Texan agree on language probably hurts your argument

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it might be more common in British English? Like "I've a fiver says he muffs the kick." Or "I've half a mind to go down there myself." (Curiously in American English this latter would probably still have the contraction but add a second auxiliary verb: "I've got half a mind to..." English is such a mess.)

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's not as uncommon the UK to hear specifically "I've [x]" instead of "I've got [x]". I won't be told though that Brits say "the [x] that I've" ;D

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

"I've got" seems particularly strange to me because without the contraction Americans would still just say "I have." (There are some circumstances where they'll say "I have got" without a contraction, but it's mainly when they're drawing a contrast with what they "haven't got." E.g., "No, I don't have a baseball... oh, but I have got a lacrosse ball, will that work?")

I think the rule is probably closer to "you don't contract a stressed verb," but that's not terribly useful since there are so few rules about stress patterns. Verbs at the end of sentences are typically stressed, though, so you're right that ending with that kind of contraction is going to sound wrong to most people.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

In murican that sounds odd.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The contractions we say are more loose than what we write. Couldn't've is my go to example.

[–] TurtleTourParty@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Who'd've gone and done a thing like that?

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 7 points 1 week ago

that makes sense, thank you for the explanation!

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So’ve you thought about this before?

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Unfortunately I've studied English at uni thinking it might've in some capacity become useful by now. Alas, so far I've'd no opportunity to use the nonsense I've learnt other than to shitpost about it. Woe'm'st've'd is me.

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[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

I see "'ve" used in the possessive context, it's not super rare but it's not super common

I think it's more common in some places

"I've no idea what you two are doing" is a valid sentence

[–] MaybeNaught@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Afaik, English grammar requires utterances with predicates to have a stressed element in those predicates. Contractions of only a subject and an auxiliary verb - ex: I am > I'm, he has > he's, they will > they'll - eliminate that independent auxiliary as a prosodic segment and violate that grammar.

A - "Who's going to the store?"

B - "I am." [ok] or "I'm going." [ok] (or "I am going."), but not "I'm." [bad, obvs].

[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

I'm Henry VIII, I'm.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago
[–] Nooodel@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some times that rule applies, other times it doesn't.

Shall we find a situation that's in the grey zone?

Yeah, let's!

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The contraction literally isn't right. It only works with the adverb version of "have".

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This one is correct but sounds wrong because we usually say it the other way.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Well they’re all “correct”. They just don’t sound right. Like saying “the red, big apple” instead of “the big, red apple”.

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[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You think it do, but it don't.

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 5 points 1 week ago

They don't think it be like it is, but it do.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's wrong. Correct would be "doesn't".

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 week ago

Gah! Yes, quite rightn't.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

That "it's" is evil. It's going to be in my head for a long time

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

If I could add another contraction to that list, I'd

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

A contraction is a separate word, with its own accepted usages in the community. For example, “gonna” comes from “going to”, but is not the same, as “I’m gonna the shop, do you want anything?” sounds wrong

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, "gonna" needs to be followed by a verb for it to sound right, I think, with the exception of it being used as a response affirming they'll be doing an action.
"You gonna go to the store?"
"I'm gonna, just gettin my shoes on first."

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[–] Hupf@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago
[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Ever since I was a kid, I've had the dumb thought that if you and your friends are imprisoned, you'd ask the warden to "let's out!"

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