I can't fucking stand Gordon Ramsay. I grew up with an abusive stepfather. I think the difference is when the abuse is from one's actual parent, it starts earlier and is internalized as normal. My stepfather wasn't in the picture until I was five, so I already had an established personality, such as it is.
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So the eating of the meat is okay, but joking about it is over the line?
Cognitive dissonance
Yeah. Basically same as buying shit from places known for child and slave labour.
Meat is murder. Tasty, tasty murder.
We got here as a species by tasty tasty meat. Some steak fries and light salad are optional.
I think that has mostly been debunked. Even the hunter gatherers were much more gathering than hunting, in the big picture. And fishing is probably more relevant than meat (if we're making that distinction). And later it was really agriculture that made our species what it is and it's very much the grains (and rice) that made the big difference.
Not a vegan btw.
I think you are giving a very eurocentric description of early humanity
You think? Most of the great fishing civilisations I think of are (South East) Asian, Indian, Japanese etc.
(Some of that might be based on Age of Empires info)
I'm mostly referencing your allusion to agriculture as a developmental milestone
Heh, fish are meat.
I agree. Still, the distinction is a very cultural one. So many cultures, even civilisations can trace their beginning back to a coastline or river. Hunting things like mammoths was actually quite rare, but it makes for better stories. Taxonomically there isn't even such a thing as a "fish".
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