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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/30850716
Nothing to be proud about for a country that was built on people taking other people's homes/land and then still not being able to provide housing or universal healthcare. If war is declared on the US, I will not hesitate to go against this forsaken sad excuse of a psuedo democracy.
Californian here.
I ain't fighting for Ameristan.
Why would I?
I am on the side of human beings, fuck countries/corporations/wealthy. They are part of the problem and definitely not the solution.
There's no organized army for human beings.
It is a shame, we have been under the yoke of "nations" AKA the corporations and the wealthy for far too long. Even democracy is just a lip service at this point.
I have said it before and I will say it again. No nation on this planet deserves humanity. We need to move beyond these petty squabbles directed by the ruling class. They are the problem and we are the solution.
Hello, this is your assigned FBI agent, why don't you have a chat with us at the nearest branch?
(Seriously, don't admit to "treason" throughcrimes on the internet lmfao)
It strikes me as unintentional, but this post is a honeypot. I would not say anything here that I wouldn't be comfortable with a Kangaroo court judge reading back to me on record
Isn't there a joke about most "war crimes" were made up by people watching what Canadians did in times of war and decided they didn't want to deal with that crazy shit?
Yeah. "It's not a war crime the first time" I believe is how it goes.
Apparently we defined a few clauses in the Geneva conventions.
The side of democracy
If you are currently a proud American, you are a big part of the problem.
I'm proud of the Americans that tore up the southern railroads and wrapped them around trees. I'm proud of Americans who laid down their lives against other Americans to give us the weekend. I'm proud of Americans fighting other Americans for their right to vote.
Being a proud American should be about fighting for the America we were all led to believe we already lived in. Everybody else against that fight shouldn't get to call themselves American. They should have to call themselves traitors. That's what we used to call them.
Yea as a Canadian, be proud. Fuck that guy
The left broadly throwing away the flag and spitting on the country is what allowed actual political capital to empower the worst people.
Armed groups of dumb patriots are the most powerful force on Earth for political change going back thousands of years.
If we really cared about pushing this thing back on the tracks we would organize, grab American flags, link hands with people we don't agree with, open-carry AR's and stop whinging about who has the most inclusive twitter history.
When America's largest segment and holders of most of the non-billionaire wealth look out at the world and they need to decide who to hand power to, they are faced with two choices: a band of hateful orcs but ones carrying the flag that represents stability and comfort, and promising to fight and die for that flag, or a band of well-meaning but naive youngsters who spit on the flag and demand some kind of abstract change, they make a predictable choice.
The left and progressives broadly want the best outcomes but need to understand power and learn to embrace power. We don't topple systems without either an army or political capital. What political capital do we have? Where is our army?
I swear to God I'm going to be a bigger liability to whoever tries to force me to fight in some bullshit war our orange toddler started, than to whoever the idiot picked a fight against.
Satire doing what satire does best: making people pause.
Canada POV: That awkward but pleasant moment when your allies randomly start spawning on enemy territory.
Why proud? What is left to be proud of, I wonder?
Nationalistic sentiments like that are part of the reason why we're in this mess to begin with. Start being critical of your government today. Never be satisfied with the status quo. Don't accept the meager good in spite of the overwhelming bad. Fight to change things for the better so that you can say you are proud of the positive change you made in your country, rather than celebrating merely being born or living here.
Another part of the reason we're in this mess is infighting and weird purity tests/emotional gatekeeping. So stop that
I will 1000% defect to Canada ~~if~~ when this kicks off.
If a war kicked off, you wouldn't want to be in Canada. Canada would lose within days. Then it would become a guerrilla war. 100% chance if that happened that Trump would institute collective punishment, killing 1000 Canadians for every American killed by guerrillas.
The most helpful think Americans could do is stay in the US and fight from within. In fact, why wait for the Canada phase to start? Why not actually do something now?
Even if I get drafted for the USA, I am fighting for Canada. What are you going to do, unfrag my superiors?
Why are you proud of something you had no influence in? I was born in Norway, and am glad to have been born here, but I am not proud to have been born here. I had no influence in where I was born, so I don't feel proud of it, but I feel quite fortunate to have here.
I also struggle with the idea of being proud of my country. I'm pleased when it does something good, but I really have no influence over it, so whether it does good or bad things is not something that reflects me.
You can be proud of something you didn't do
Sweden here. I generally feel an ick when people talk about being proud of their country, or outright patriotism. It smacks too hard of far-right supremacist tendencies to me. It's why I've never been able to really palate the U.S., they've always so openly boasted about their own perceived greatness, while blatantly ignoring the falsities of it all.
Obviously there are good things in the U.S., and maybe I've always just been a pessimist, but I just don't get how one can be so self-congratulatory while openly ignoring all the horrors not just of the past, but of present day as well. Had an American roomie, and was absolutely shocked to find out that they actually did a pledge of allegiance daily in his schools. He was unfazed, but to me that's such 1984-esque dystopian BS.
Don't know how proud I am, but I am an American, and I am absolutely on the side of Canada
Thankfully its still a meme
SAME. I think a lot of Americans respect Canada and will be on their side.