The NRA is frantically running the numbers to see what will increase public fear, and thus sales figures for the gun companies, the most.
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You're going to see a timid pushback against the administration right now.
Why are they doing this? Are they finally standing up with consistent values on at least this one idea? Are they making a firm stand that the constitution is beyond partisan politics? I don't know.... it may be something else.
The NRA released a statement only hours after the shooting, in it they blame Governor Tim Walz for his "radical extremist protests".
“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida … to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.
“Take the guns first, go through due process second,”
- Donald J Trump, Feb 28, 2018
Quick question...
Did they take the gun from the 34x convicted felon?
Why does he need a gun when he has an entire army and nukes? Apparently if you're a felon you can't have a pistol but it's no issue being in charge of the most powerful army in the world and one of the biggest nuclear arsenals.
Did you miss the fact that he has (or at least had, prolly still has it though), a custom Orange Turnip gold plated gun?
Why does he need a gun when he has an entire army
I don't know, but they charged Maduro with possession of a machine gun, so ¯\(ツ)/¯
Trump is an east-coast elite real-estate lich, he doesn't give a shit about guns at all. He's always just paid people to carry them for him. Literally, he's the consummate cartoon fatcat. That's why he has zero qualms saying over and over he wants to take them or restrict them, he's not a constitution thumping conservative, he's just an old parody.
In a twisted way, Trump is inadvertently trying hard to prove that more guns in the hands of untrained people with no background checks are a bad idea, something NRA was hoping to keep down. The cat is out of the bag now.
Anyway, fight girls.
I get the irony but if he managed to actually enact some form of gun control in this country it would be the hardest pill in the world for people like us to swallow who just can't stand that fucking idiot.
insert "Broken clocks" idiom
He'd be doing the right thing but for the wrong reasons and in this case, for more authoritarian control
It's a fun take, and Lemmy is a bit of an echo chamber, so let me enlighten you all on how that would kind of go:
The MAGA crowd is a combination of idiocy, brain damage, and then dark tetrad people.
They don't care if their cult leader is hypocritical, they'll defend everything he says, even if it hurts their own interests; they'll cherry pick, gaslight, and deny basic facts.
When you see them from a point of clinical detachment, their behavior makes a kind of twisted sense. The mistake is the assumption that they're just like you, and can be reasoned with or moved using empathy. Their worldview is fundamentally different, and typically only changes via direct experience: "leopards ate my face". Sometimes not even then.
It's downright infuriating at times because it reminds me of that antisemitism quote:
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
Jean-Paul Sartre
Forgive me for being the ackshully guy in the thread, but it’s dark triad. A tetrad is comprised of four
Edit: guess I should have dug deeper. I didn’t know some add sadism to make it a tetrad. Thanks for teaching me something.
But weird to wait just a couple days after his support significantly fractured to claim his support can never fracture...
I'll be glad when it does; the guy was elected twice.
I want to be wrong in this case
Let me translate this:
You (the Outgroup, meaning leftists) can't have guns. If You (the Outgroup) does this, We (the ingroup, the right) will kill you. You have no rights, We have no restrictions.
A federal agent did not kill a civilian. A Confederate soldier killed an American citizen.
Guys... what is happening to your country?
Not even sure if it's "my country" anymore
Rich white conservative men have stolen it, now I'm just a "subject" I guess... lol 🫠
it looks like the start of a civil war. i hope it doesn't come to that, but it really looks like that's where it's headed.
If we keep society together and martial law isn't declared before midterms then we might be good. We might go to sweep them without a civil war. But should martial law be declared or we don't get the midterms for whatever reason......
Unchecked fascism. Beware.
They want to deny you even the chance to die on your feet. How's all that owning the libs feel now, huh conservatives? You love it when your daddy treads on you to tread on the people you don't like. Every Republican voter is a traitor.
This is how the general public finds out that the NRA = Nationalist Racist Association
One of the main purposes (arguably the primary purpose?) of the "well regulated militia" was to ensure that settlers could attack and exterminate American Indian tribes during westward expansion.
The stupidity of right wing people who aren't rich never ceases to amaze me.
You've heard of "a rising tide raises all ships", right?
These clowns honestly think "sinking undesirable ships raises the seafloor", and much prefer that methodology even if the gains are marginal.
I really think you all aren't properly focusing on the word "you" here. By "you" he means "not them"... So he essentially is saying "You libtards can't have guns, because us Maga-idiots will shoot you if you do".

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
something something FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS
If we hold ICE protests in schools every day then the feds will work to keep guns out of schools?
So MAGA, let's check the scoreboard:
- America First - yeah, NO.
- Release the Epstein Files - Who?
- Lower prices on day one - tariffs are more important
- 2A Champion - Only for who they choose.
So what are you still in for? The voracious Corruption? The Pedophilia? The virtuosic incompetence? The sending Americans to die in another endless foreign war to make oil companies wealthy? Paramilitary Death Squads having spontaneous firing squads in the streets?
This is what you voted for. Is this the free America you envisioned?
And you’re still saying you don’t have a king ruling over you , America?
He really shit all over your second amendment rights there. Wiped his royal butt with it.
It's almost like 2a was built of ppl who value 2a and people who value power and nobody cared to different the two, including the 2a crowd themselves.
"Gun control" will continue to be a means of controlling undesirables while the fash base is still supported.
These current attacks are a good example. They're attacking protesters in non-fashy areas. They'll find similar ways of controlling guns for themselves.
Trump has been contentious among the pro gun crowd. He has supported red flag laws and instituted the bump stock ban. I don't think this is him being inconsistent.