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In 2022, Snider tweeted about the use of the song by right-wing activists, "ATTENTION QANON, MAGAT FASCISTS: Every time you sing 'We're Not Gonna Take It' remember it was written by a cross-dressing, libtard, tree hugging half-Jew who HATES everything you stand for. It was you and people like you that inspired every angry word of that song! SO FUCK OFF!
All the cool people of history are woke.
In November 2023, after the October 7 attacks, Snider was asked if he agreed with Israel soldiers using "We're Not Gonna Take It" as a battle cry. He replied, "Oh, hell yeah. You know what? Israelis, the assault on the Israelis, people are losing sight of something. People saying that, 'Oh, the response is gonna be too intense for what happened.' Well, you don't get to decide on the response when you do heinous things to civilians. You don't get to say, 'Oh, that's enough, that's enough retaliation.' No, it doesn't work like that. When you cross that line, you're burning people, you're slaughtering people, you're raping people, you're just killing people, after what happened at that festival you don't get to say, 'Okay, your revenge can be this much.' No. Payback's a mothereffer. And I come from that school. You cross that line, you know... shit's gonna happen. Sing it out, boys."
Everyone's problematic
Playing devils advocate for Snider, November 2023 was right after October 7th and I don't think there were nearly as many people pointing out and shouting about the ethnic cleansing Israel was using the attack as an excuse to partake in until we got into 2024.
Indeed.
I know "Well, you don’t get to decide on the response" certainly aged like milk, but I think folks in 2023 could be forgiven to be thinking "IDF is going to strike Hamas and Hamas brought them on themselves" as the wanton collateral harm largely wasn't on folks radar at the time. Some folks with more nuanced understandings sounded alarms and were dismissed, but having to respond to that situation mere weeks after October 7th... That's going to be a tough scenario for most people to come out looking ok.
I think that response was more insightful than he realised. Every Extremist planning something should take into account that the reaction might be much more than anticipated. But that also goes for the people doing the reaction. Israel likewise can't control what people's reaction to their actions will be.
Valid criticism, but how does he feel today? Because on October 7, I was pretty supportive of strong retaliation, too.
Then I saw what Israel actually did, which was far beyond a military response on military targets. It wasn't long after they started that they lost my support. I can support the concept of justice, I can't support genocide.
I don't know how he feels about that today, but it is possible that his feelings in November, immediately following the attack, changed after the atrocious response. I think a lot of peoples' did.
Who are these people? They don’t read the bills they sign, no rudimentary understanding of music, and they talk about it as such like it’s normal.
The answer is they don't care. Facts are a plaything for conservatives.
What matters to them is power - and for that you don't need to be right, you just need to be convincing. That's why they engage so much in misinformation, blatant ragebait, etc..
The kids from your high school who weren’t popular, but were obsessed with popularity.
Like their bible, it says whatever they want it to say even if it says the opposite of what they say it says.
Ah yes, conservatives. The same guys that have no idea what machine is being raged against.
This was always my favorite. Seeing conservatives say things like, “I loved you guys growing up! Why did you change?” And it’s like, they’ve been pretty consistent their entire career silly guy
It's not that they don't listen. It's that their brains aren't built to think critically about anything. They are built to obey, but they're also narcissists.
That's why conservatives go wild for Trump. From the conservative's point of view, Trump lets them FEEL LIKE THEY ARE OBEYING by doing whatever they want.
He doesn't just give them permission or cover to be awful; Trump makes these people feel like they're helping him when they do shitty and selfish things.
(This is also why they love cops who hurt people and soldiers who commit war crimes. They get to vicariously OBEY while also BREAKING THE RULES TO FEEL GOOD. Best of both worlds to them, like taking an upper and a downer at the same time.)
I guess that makes conservatism a social speedball.
Other songs about America that conservatives have grotesquely misunderstood:
"Born in the USA" Bruce Springsteen "American Woman" The Guess Who "Pink Houses" John Mellencamp "Independence Day" Martina McBride
"Fortunate Son" as well
What the hell did they think he wasn't gonna take anymore? Minorities? Wokeness?
The IRS and the Department of Education.
This is almost as bad as thinking RATM was on their side. I say almost, but holy shit, how do you listen to one of their songs without comprehending or even thinking about a single line of the lyrics. Actual dementia
Reminds me of that video of magats rocking out on RATM Killing in the name of, having absolutely no idea what the song is about
Some of those that work forces
Are the same that burn crosses
ah, the cryptic lyrics were too opaque for the conservative brain
Conservative Politian: When did RATM get political?
Tom Morello: Tell me what song in our catalog you don't think is political and I'll remove it.
This just in, the drag performer who sang the words:
We've got the right to choose and
there ain't no way we'll lose it
This is our life, this is our song
We'll fight the powers that be just
don't pick our destiny cause
You don't know us, you don't belong
has disavowed conservative values!
Conservatives famously have the media literacy of a tree stump.
The cross dresser? I'm shocked, shocked!
Media literacy final boss are MAGAs. Same goes for some Christians praising Take Me to Church as a song of worship. You see this also a lot with video games and superheroes. No, Batman would NOT be on your side and games like Fallout have ALWAYS been political.
Batman is a billionaire beating up environmentalists. Sounds pretty MAGA to me.
These are the traditional american values I support.
Crossdressing and anti-authoritarianism aside, didn't Dee Snider literally have to defend his work to Congress when Tipper Gore founded the PMRC?
Reminds me of the time Tom Morello made a political statement and magats got into a huff, saying that he is a musical artist and should stay out of politics. My favorite comment online was "What machine do they think they were raging against, the toaster?"
They thought the guy dressed in drag while singing "were not going to take it" was on their side? WOW
daily reminder when the nazis say this kind of shit they're not being stupid they are intentionally lying to confuse and recruit.
I hope Jerrod was spammed with links to the official music video, it shows clearly what the song is about.
Watching a transphobic bigot unknowingly rocking out to "Lola" by The Kinks... chef's kiss
Jarrod Sessler must've been high if he thought that song favored conservative values..
That or he's an idiot that couldn't understand the lyrics...or understand the video...
The dude in makeup and fishnet stockings? Did they even see the video to the song?
Have y'all seen the music video of this song. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4xmckWVPRaI
Opposite of conservative.
I mean. All the band members are wearing makeup and big hair.
Makes you wonder about tech oligarchs who read scifi and always misinterpret it. Rather than warnings of unbridled power, they seem to view stuff like 1984, Snowcrash, Dune, etc as guides.
The first five words are literally "We've got the right to choose". I mean, c'mon people. Show a little effort.
We'll fight the powers that be, just don't pick our destiny
A big part of MAGA mythology is the notion that the country, even with Republicans in charge of all three branches, is actually run by a sinister cabal of deviants and assorted non-WASPs. "Fighting the powers that be" is what Trump is here to do for them.
'cause you don't know us, you don't belong
...not hard to find a MAGA reading for that line either.