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fyi: it's "drugs"

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[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I want to live in a world where all women feel completely safe running around stark naked.

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[–] riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 94 points 6 days ago (9 children)

mhm mhm

but also do not show up naked to a party unless it's a nude party cause otherwise thats literally sexual harassment

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 96 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Setiyeti93@lemmy.ca 66 points 6 days ago (20 children)

It's so strange to me that the argument of she was drunk and / or on drugs so strange.

These are reasons that she could never consent. Therefore any sexual act with her would be assault

It feels so weird to me that they think this is some kind of "gotcha".

[–] Lithops@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

Its the typical shaming. The attempt to blame the victim. Always so wrong but seems for a lot of people legit.

[–] deltapi@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Does it make more sense if it's presented as

If a woman goes to a party, she won't be raped unless there's a rapist there.
This holds true even if she's on drugs and naked.

Because the drugs aren't the point

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[–] vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

it me i'm the woman who would do this

okay maybe not stark naked but definitely at least tits out

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I had a man apologize to my husband once because he saw my tits.

I fumed. My husband doesn't own my tits. Those are my tits! I'll show 'em if I fucking wanna.

[–] xav@programming.dev 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Vanta & Velma do a tits battle !

[–] vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

mine are the most recent post on my profile :3

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[–] peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Mom always ruined my birthdays 😔

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 63 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I've always been a total wierdo, but even at sixteen, when I was a desperate, frustrated incel, if a girl (in this case, a peer) had to get sloshed to be into me, it'd freak me out.

Pretty much through my entire romantic career, meeting at a bar instead of a café was a red flag. Sex always seemed like a sober activity. Or more exactly, sex supplies its own drugs. Morover, once someone was not coherent enough to do crosswords, it was clear they weren't clear headed enough to consent to fluid exchange.

Granted, there are two factors that inform this attitude: One is my parents were sloppy drunks and went to sloppy-drunk parties. And I never wanted to be like that. The other is I made my way into the kink community in my twenties, and mixing drugs or booze with kink was ~~geberallt~~ generally known to be dangerous like mixing drugs and booze with motor vehicles or guns. (At least in my corner of the kink community. Also breath-control was a no-no and kids seem to be choking each other all over the place, nowadays.)

But then, I've never been a frat dude, or even the kind of guy who'd ever be sponsored to join a Greek house.

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[–] QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 47 points 6 days ago (11 children)

Seeing people defend the Cornell 7 has made me want a fucking matriarchy

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[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 42 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If someone shows up drunk and naked and starts taking drugs you should stay away from them no mater which sex they are. I mean stay away forever.

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[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago (4 children)

If both people show up drunk and take drugs, who is the rapist? both? neither? o.O

[–] peacepath@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

The one who takes advantage of the state of the other to force a sexual relationship.

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[–] peacepath@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (15 children)

Am I the only one thinking consent isn't enough?

I mean, a few of you at least have ever had sex with someone who was not participating, just being passive, clearly "accepting but not willing". Am I the only one to find it a turn off?

To make love together requires a cooperation... of course not to "fuck someone" but this one is supposed in a domination, but if you need that some one be passed out to dominate them, what do you think of yourself?

If you want a sex toy, please buy it in some shop, it has never been that easy. If you want to make love, you need to seduce someone enough so they are genuinely willing to do it with you.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Some people find it sexy to behave as sex toys or to be treated as such. Some people like to be dominated and moved around. Not everyone wants to make love, some people just want to fuck, or even to be fucked. You may find this unjust, but I feel like, in your writing, you just think about how you feel yourself, and not about how others experience their sexuality as if they were somehow broken if it doesn't look like love and cooperation to you.

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[–] Euler_eix@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Completely agree with you. I honestly feel a little sick if someone says they were doing it as a favor to me. Don't do that. If you aren't into it, just tell me. I can take of myself in that case.

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[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (18 children)

There might not be any rapist at the party until they become one at that party. It's not like they're born a rapist. It's a consequence of their own actions.

[–] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 6 days ago (7 children)

If you haven't raped anyone, but would if you thought consequences wouldn't come back to you, then you're a rapist.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That's 100% not how that works. You're getting into thought crime territory. You're not a rapist until you rape. You're not a murderer until you murder. You can't accuse someone of something they might do.

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ya this whole post and the general movement around it is just meant to razz men up before an important election by making deceitful arguments about men having some kind of original rape sin. The people making these posts are not acting in good faith. OP mostly posts articles that are all about politics, and mostly about Donald Trump. Think about how you consume media at a time like this.

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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (12 children)

I get the sentiment but I'm willing to bet a vast majority of people genuinely think they would "just do the right thing in that situation." But people underestimate the temptation in the moment. They've never actually thought to try and put themselves in that situation, or what they might do, they just thought "of course im a good person" and left it at that.

And naturally the mere suggestion of "thinking it out" is met with ridicule. "How can you even consider it?! This should be a fast, easy answer!!". When not thinking about it at all is what contributed to it happening.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (12 children)

Anecdotal evidence: I'm a frat boy who has been in this situation multiple times. I can't even understand how that would be tempting to a non-rapist; the sex wouldn't even be good! My layman understanding is that it's about power, not horny.

This situation came up so often that we had a standard procedure of getting the girls rehydrated and in a cab.

IMHO the problem isn't that most men want to rape, it's that most men would cover for an alleged rapist friend. They value their gender team over basic decency.

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[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 34 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Fyi it takes 5 seconds to edit the words back in...or just rewrite this yourself. It's text on white background.

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[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 37 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Hey, I'd just be excited to have a cool new friend to do drugs with, and if I take off my clothes it's not sexual, it's purely about being on the same mental level

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For me it’s more likely to be “Jesus fuck how is it so hot all of a sudden?”

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago (5 children)

If someone is high on drugs and/or drunk, does that also mean I can rob them without consequences, or the rule only applies for rape?

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[–] thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 6 days ago (12 children)
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[–] public_image_ltd@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I just wonder which fucking assholes downvoted this.

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