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[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Obviously should happen. But i’ll be surprised if it does.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

spoiler alert: They wont

the uniparty system wont allow the duopoly to end.

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 60 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Hahahahahah... Oh, that's rich!

Downvote me if you must, but just go see Minority Leader Jeffries's comments downplaying the agenda most of us think should be priority... Like finally holding government officials to account for pedophilia, corruption, and treason. Apparently that's too "revengey" for their billionaire handlers.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 28 points 22 hours ago

Yep. Jeffries's hasn't even gotten the official promotion yet and he is already putting in the work to make sure the Democrats are the minority party again in 2028.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 18 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Democrats can release the Epstein files right now.

Would it be "legal"? Probably not.

Anyway, leak it now, stop hiding behind the law you weenies.

I agree with Jeffries that impeachment should not be a priority. Vance would pardon, there's no point to it. Just investigate until Democrat President takes helm in two years.

Trump will likely be dead by then, but his enablers can be brought to justice.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, this is talking about the number of state governments that have flipped, not Federal.

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I did miss that nuance, but not sure it impacts the ability of the parties to do something this radical.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

The allusion is to the state-level pact several states have made to always assign their electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote in their state. With Texas and other flipping, that makes enough states to be over 270 votes, meaning if all those new blue state governments join the compact, the EC essentially doesn't matter anymore.

And it doesn't need to include Texas

On Tuesday, Democrats took control of state legislatures and governorships in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Nevada, all states that haven’t agreed to the compact. If all five vote to join, then the total number of electoral votes apportioned based on the national popular vote jumps to 283.

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I am enlightened! Appreciate the response.

Any thoughts on how binding such a pact is?

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Bad news there I'm afraid, some people think it might even be unconstitutional, but because it's never triggered it's never been tested. It's probably a safe bet that if it ever did trigger the Republicans would set their own children on fire summoning the best lawyers hell can offer.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

There is nothing in the Constitution that says how states must choose their electors based on the outcome of the vote, whether it's by districts or statewide, and it says nothing about how or whether electors are allocated to the runners-up. In fact, it just says it's up to the states how they conduct their elections. The only requirement (not in the original text of the Constitution for Senators) is that they hold elections.

That might not prevent the Extreme Supremes from making shit up, as they did with presidential immunity, but apart from that kind of fuckery, it should be fine.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

That kind of fuckery is exactly the problem we're facing though, which is why this is tenuous.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

do it. stop the idiotic gerrymandering bullshit

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Getting rid of the electoral college does not change anything about gerrymandering. The EC is for electing president. Gerrymandering is only possible for electing district representatives. But yeah, one step at a time.

[–] Krumm@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It drives people in areas where they feel their vote doesn't matter to have incentive to vote. It's not necessarily gerrymandering, but it's a voter suppression tool for sure and needs to go.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I even went out of the way to add "one step at a time" to make it clear I agree it is a good change, just not related to gerrymandering and you still feel the need to state the obvious? 😩

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

thats why we need to be rid of it. treat us all like a single district with no racial/ethnic restrictions prohibiting any legal voters from excercising their right to vote

[–] EtruDUR@thelemmy.club 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

A big problem that I have with the discourse when political races are covered is that the press calls it as if it is a contest between candidates and not one where the voters are the actual active element.

In a football game, fans watch and cheer.

In an election citizens vote. When their will is not respected and they are forced to accept compromised representation, this is essentially a loss for the only team that matters.

Voters, citizens… people, not parties are what should be getting lauded for this immense expression of public will. The people said “no” to Trump and to Republicans.

Now, what politicians need to do is figure out what people actually want and figure out how to communicate it in a way that gets them elected next time.

This sounds generic, but it isn’t. The Democratic Party establishment NEEDS to have a full and active debate within itself about what the people actually want.

If the progressives prevail and what gets presented to various constituencies are things in line with AOC and Bernie and if it is legitimate appealing to the majority of voters, then great.

If they do their typical bullshit thing of trying to appeal to Boomers that don’t can’t about politics to have real opinions (and barely bother to vote) then they might get lucky and the Republicans will just put out more slinky turds in ties for the next election, or someone will figure out that charismatically complaining and making empty promises (the Trump formula) will work again and again to draw morons and frustrated people out to vote.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

The problem with direct democracy is the volatility. The problem with representative democracy is the indirection, and the consequent growth of a self-serving political class.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

By all means, vote to shut down the Electoral College. Shame that was not on the ballot.

[–] stateofaffairs@lemmy.today 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Hakeem Jeffries needs to go first. Let's look back at his awful speech on election night, just to get started.

Standing in front of a crowd of well-wishers and hopefuls, he delivered a speech. A speech that will go down in history as a big ole nothing burger. A speech that is now, less than 12 hours later, largely forgotten in the political and collective memory of an otherwise monumental moment. I surmise this is because he lacks the commanding presence and leadership qualities necessary to serve as Speaker of the House.

His charisma, if it can even be called that, is more akin to that of a Home Depot bag of paver sand. You search through the poorly stacked pile selecting the one with the least holes. Yet, despite that effort, it still spills it’s contents all over the cart on the way to the register. Not a good look.

If that does not speak for itself, then consider this. As a potential Speaker, Mr. Jeffries would face the immense challenge of uniting a fractured party that has not managed to maintain a large and diverse tent of voters since Debbie Wasserman Schultz declared Bernie a non-starter. Mr. Jeffries is simply not capable of standing firm in the face of political opposition. Don’t take my word for it. Perhaps, instead, the ever present consumer advocate Ralph Nader may sway you:

More introspection may lead you to ask yourself whether you are up to leading the House Democrats in their immense and immediate tasks of policy and program restorations and adopting our Constitution’s mandated Congressional independence from the Presidency for the protection and advancement of the livelihoods, peace and freedoms of the American people. There is no indication that you are so willing and prepared. Unfortunately.

His record in Congress has not demonstrated the kind of bold, decisive leadership that the position of Speaker demands. Instead, he has often been seen as a cautious, moderate voice. Dare I say, a voice coming from a very real human (I swear) with a spine made of NeeDoh.

Let’s be frank. In times of crisis or when tough decisions must be made, the leader of the Democratic Party and Speaker of the House is not merely about personality. I understand that. Such positions require a deep understanding of the legislative process, the ability to negotiate, and the resilience to withstand the political pressures that come with the position. Jeffries has not consistently shown these traits in his career. For any informed observers, this must raise serious questions about his suitability for such a high-stakes role.

Finally, to convey my firm belief that Mr. Jeffries is not the right person for the leadership role come January, I paraphrase the amazing Forest Whitaker in his role as PFC Edward Garlick in “Good Morning Vietnam”

Hakeem Jeffries sucks the sweat off a dead man’s balls. I have no idea what that means, sir, but it seems very negative to me.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It should be remembered that when the Dems shut down the government, he stayed the course, even as food assistance ended, and people started to get hungry. But we encouraged him to stick to it, so we could make sure our health care system, as mediocre as it was, stayed in place.

But as soon as the shutdown hit the airports, and their Wealthy Donors couldn't move their operatives around the country, the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries immediately folded, and gave MAGA EVERYTHING they wanted. It was the weakest, most cowardly shit I've ever seen.

Schmuck & Jeffries work for MAGA, and they should be investigated as deeply as any MAGA, and we'll find out they were being paid by someone, probably Israeli, to cooperate.

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Maybe you should do this instead of another dog-and-pony impeachment show for the next two years that at most would lead to pardons from President Vance?

(he would take office if you kick Trump out with an impeachment and conviction)

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 347 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Yeah America has a habit of generating hope ... and then crushingly disappointing everyone

I'll believe it when I see it ... otherwise I'm not holding my breath

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

We've also had a habit of razor thin election margins and Republicans in Texas.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 111 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

It might genuinely kill me if they do it. The sheer surge of endorphins would be comparable to a full plate of fentanyl.

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[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 52 points 1 day ago

The problem with America is we vote and then everyone goes back to whatever they were doing.

We need to stay mobilized and protest even the democrats until we are getting what we want.

Winning a congress that might listen is the first step, but politics never ends.

You either participate in politics or politics will participate you and you won’t like what it does to you.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Maybe. I'm not entirely sure on that.

If you just look at the number of red and blue, sure.

Then discount the blue that are overred areas who are mainly there for -war -gas -foodcost. How many of them are going to be honest and vote for their people, those people who would definately NOT vote to dump Electoral college because it has served them well for ages.

Then discount DINO sleepers sitting in Congress who look and talk blue then flip when they are needed?

Then in the same venn circle in many cases, take the remaining blueish moderates who can be bought by your friendly neighborhood oligarch.

We're blue on paper using binary counting; politics is not a binary sport.

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Fighting Republican lunatics is step one.

Step two is fighting all the centrist MAGA Lite Democrats.

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[–] neo2478@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only slim chance this and other positive changes might happen is if the US population thanks a page from France and protest non stop. Demand the progressive changes until it happens. Show the corporate Democrats that they are done.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Protests aren’t enough, we need to unionize, organize tenant unions, create revolutionary cadres and do socialism. It’s the only way to stop the oligarchs from maintaining their ownership of us.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They're going to fuck up like they always do and we'll be back to a Republican majority in no time

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They think this election represents support for the Dems, but most people (including reliable Dem voters) still have an unfavorable view of the party. This election was about rejecting Trump, and he won't be dragging down the Republicans in 2028.

We need to hit the primaries HARD.

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[–] fuckemiquit@lemmy.zip 3 points 22 hours ago

I am personally wondering, if they're going to implement the STOCK act or if it'll be water under the bridge again, or better yet, they do it during Trump in office for brownie points then never again and act like the Republicans stopped them. - https://www.npr.org/2025/09/03/nx-s1-5485340/congress-stock-trading-bill

I have no faith in them, but it was to stop the bleeding, we need to move past two parties and I do agree with that even if I think all the people typing the whataboutisms and how they've seen this before are cowards. You want to complain, give me ideas to fix our shithole instead.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's great to see this, but still, basically 40% of the US voted red.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Good for them. That kind of thing is exactly why the EC should be abolished, because that minority should not have their votes disproportionately counted such that their candidate(s) could still be put into office even though they clearly lost.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The dems arent into fixing scams. They wont end it.

[–] Squirrelknight@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

If they fix the problem, what are they supposed to run on in the next election? Have the voters considered that? /s

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But they won't because their leadership wants it. Chuck and Hakeem are corporate dems who like keeping the will of the people in chains.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

People hate them more than you think. I think now we just need to doxx the fuck out of the Israeli donors.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 94 points 1 day ago
[–] QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 34 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Will they actually do it though? I'm guessing no

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[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We are actually already ridiculously close to a popular vote being the deciding factor for president:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

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