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[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 26 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

All YouTube will be is just AI “creator” slop soon. People should be ditching that shit post-haste.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 points 27 minutes ago (1 children)

Before Google came along, most search engines were manually curated. I'm disappointed that nobody's had any success bringing that concept back. They always cave in and take the cheap route by trying to make the general public & algorithms rate things, which of course instantly gets gamed to uselessness.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 minute ago* (last edited 23 seconds ago)

The pagerank algorithm worked fine for many years in the 2000-2010s before google transitioned into a full time advertising company

[–] Zink@programming.dev 17 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Aw, don't you love searching for an update on something just for the algorithm to show you a low view count video that's a mediocre computer voice talking over a barely related slideshow?

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Oh absolutely. And it’s one of the same 3 or 4 voices in every video. And not only that, but a lot of the videos themselves are AI. Check the comments… yeah. No one notices or even cares.

It’s a foregone conclusion at this point. AI going to absolutely wreck the creativity of mankind. Art will be viewed in history books, and it’s fucking sad.

[–] quid_pro_joe@infosec.pub 1 points 12 minutes ago

I would recommend going to some local art faires, it will soothe your anxiety about the future (of art). I bought a small oil-on-canvas painting of a sailboat at sunset from a young artist at a recent art faire, who was thrilled to talk about art and even tried to give me the painting for free. Creating art by hand is soul-satisfying, and rest assured, my friend, it will never be replaced my AI.

[–] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 21 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

So I am completely ignorant about this, but... Would just hosting torrents to their own content work? I know the revenue might not be the same, but, would it be possible to keep it going around?

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yea, revenue certainly wouldn't be the same. As in, there would be no revenue.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Ad revenue. They'd still get sales through their store, as well as sponsor revenue.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 16 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

So, there are options.

You have three challenges:

  • You need to be discoverable

  • you need to be accessible

  • you need to monetize

If you just make videos and torrent them, you're not monetized, you're not discoverable and you're not really very accessable to the average person.

Youtube is this nifty one-stop-shop that provides all three to a certain point.

Peertube gives you some discoverability and lots of accessibility, but nothing for monetization.

Odysee gives you a tiny bit of discoverability and lots of accessibility, but almost nothing for monetization.

Floatplane (assuming GN wasn't feuding with LMG) gives you reasonable monetization and accessibility but almost nothing in discoverability.

edit: cut myself short

I'd like to see some form of partially federated system that works with peertube. I think the platform could scale and we could give youtube a run for their money.

[–] xep@discuss.online 1 points 1 hour ago

What about Rumble? GN is on there and directly supportable.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Surely torrent distributed video can still have sponsorships in it, stick it up as a video on your own website is an option too. Could even go for low res video on website (cheap to host) along with an option of HD torrent.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 hours ago

https://socialblade.com/youtube/handle/gamersnexus

He gets around 750 Million Youtube verified views per month , he's releasing about 5 hours of content per month.

He's not self-hosting that cheaply.

His sponsors are giving him the a nice pile of money based on his view count, he's not going to manage that on his own without the algo pumping users to him. Search engines kind of suck and video bloggers at that scale need organics to keep going.

You can't add monetization without discoverability and accessibility.

Looking at those numbers, I don't even know that peertube could handle it, he'd probably need to setup his own cluster to mirror them all.

There's a reason why we don't have a lot of competition to YouTube.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Theoretically, you could try to rely on patreon to have your audience pay you directly, but without discoverability, they will slowly dwindle and die. As to corporate sponsors, no one is going to pay for ads on torrented shows.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 16 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Yeh, absolutely.
The DMCA takedown works because music/film industry execs have previously gone after YouTube for not responding to legitimate copyright infringements.
So YouTube now favours the person claiming the strike and makes it very difficult for the defendant to exonerate themselves.

Changing how they publish will sidestep YouTube overplaying.
But YouTube has revenue split with content creators, and has an absolutely massive audience with discovery algorithms and community stuff. Moving away from that platform would be an insane move

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Nobody is gonna watch a torrent tuber, the audience would get cut to 1/100th if even that.

Too many people rely on the aggregates and the algorithms.

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