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[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 37 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

All YouTube will be is just AI “creator” slop soon. People should be ditching that shit post-haste.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Before Google came along, most search engines were manually curated. I'm disappointed that nobody's had any success bringing that concept back. They always cave in and take the cheap route by trying to make the general public & algorithms rate things, which of course instantly gets gamed to uselessness.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

The pagerank algorithm worked fine for many years in the 2000-2010s before google transitioned into a full time advertising company

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

It was sooooo good in retrospect.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 19 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Aw, don't you love searching for an update on something just for the algorithm to show you a low view count video that's a mediocre computer voice talking over a barely related slideshow?

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Oh absolutely. And it’s one of the same 3 or 4 voices in every video. And not only that, but a lot of the videos themselves are AI. Check the comments… yeah. No one notices or even cares.

It’s a foregone conclusion at this point. AI going to absolutely wreck the creativity of mankind. Art will be viewed in history books, and it’s fucking sad.

[–] quid_pro_joe@infosec.pub 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I would recommend going to some local art faires, it will soothe your anxiety about the future (of art). I bought a small oil-on-canvas painting of a sailboat at sunset from a young artist at a recent art faire, who was thrilled to talk about art and even tried to give me the painting for free. Creating art by hand is soul-satisfying, and rest assured, my friend, it will never be replaced my AI.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

God I hope you’re right. We create such beautiful things. I’d hate to see humanity become so hollow that we stoop to accepting AI slop as art.

[–] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 23 points 14 hours ago (9 children)

So I am completely ignorant about this, but... Would just hosting torrents to their own content work? I know the revenue might not be the same, but, would it be possible to keep it going around?

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

Easier than that. Just put it on peertube

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yea, revenue certainly wouldn't be the same. As in, there would be no revenue.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Ad revenue. They'd still get sales through their store, as well as sponsor revenue.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 4 points 5 hours ago

When I worked with an influencer who made free workout vids, his entire revenue was 80% of income. It was an extreme minority from free videos to buying something in his store.

Then some algorithm change in 2018 broke his entire income, he couldn't afford me, and last I checked, he was sponsored by diet pills or whatever fake garbage.

It's a damn shame because his dream was always to provide free workout vids.

[–] Jeffool@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

People with enough of a viewership would still be offered sponsorship for videos. Like YouTubers who do their own ads in videos.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 20 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

So, there are options.

You have three challenges:

  • You need to be discoverable

  • you need to be accessible

  • you need to monetize

If you just make videos and torrent them, you're not monetized, you're not discoverable and you're not really very accessable to the average person.

Youtube is this nifty one-stop-shop that provides all three to a certain point.

Peertube gives you some discoverability and lots of accessibility, but nothing for monetization.

Odysee gives you a tiny bit of discoverability and lots of accessibility, but almost nothing for monetization.

Floatplane (assuming GN wasn't feuding with LMG) gives you reasonable monetization and accessibility but almost nothing in discoverability.

edit: cut myself short

I'd like to see some form of partially federated system that works with peertube. I think the platform could scale and we could give youtube a run for their money.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Surely torrent distributed video can still have sponsorships in it, stick it up as a video on your own website is an option too. Could even go for low res video on website (cheap to host) along with an option of HD torrent.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 hours ago

https://socialblade.com/youtube/handle/gamersnexus

He gets around 750 Million Youtube verified views per month , he's releasing about 5 hours of content per month.

He's not self-hosting that cheaply.

His sponsors are giving him the a nice pile of money based on his view count, he's not going to manage that on his own without the algo pumping users to him. Search engines kind of suck and video bloggers at that scale need organics to keep going.

You can't add monetization without discoverability and accessibility.

Looking at those numbers, I don't even know that peertube could handle it, he'd probably need to setup his own cluster to mirror them all.

There's a reason why we don't have a lot of competition to YouTube.

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[–] towerful@programming.dev 16 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Yeh, absolutely.
The DMCA takedown works because music/film industry execs have previously gone after YouTube for not responding to legitimate copyright infringements.
So YouTube now favours the person claiming the strike and makes it very difficult for the defendant to exonerate themselves.

Changing how they publish will sidestep YouTube overplaying.
But YouTube has revenue split with content creators, and has an absolutely massive audience with discovery algorithms and community stuff. Moving away from that platform would be an insane move

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