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The military service, which falls under the Department of Homeland Security, has drafted a new policy that classifies such items “potentially divisive.”

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[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

so the most hateful symbol ever made, the swastika, is now just potentially divisive… sweet….
i will say that the noose has a lot of meaning other than referring to lynchings… pretty popular in suicide and any other type of execution….
it’s certainly used as a hate symbol but it’s not always that.
e.g. Hangtown, California (although they did remove the noose from their city logo)
….
maybe they changed it because the swastika has much older cultural and religious meaning elsewhere?

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

No, the swastika only has one meaning. It was changed from the original symbol, and so that original symbol is still safe. The swastika is the swastika, and it means nothing but hate and is worn by no one but cunts.

Edit: Lot of swastika apologists on this site...

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

The Nazi swastika is, not the others.

[–] itsgoodtobeawake@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

This isn't really accurate. I agree with your sentiment on some level... But the swastika has existed for thousands of years in many different forms in many different cultures. It was co opted for sure, but not really changed. I agree that it is predominantly used as a hate symbol in modern culture, but it's not quite as simple as you are putting it here, imho. Ancient Buddhist or Hindu temples shouldn't be torn down because of a madman that stole a symbol nonsensically that had nothing to do with Aryan superiority. Might be nice if someday it could be rehabbed but certainly today, in America especially it is generally used as only meaning one thing. Not trying to be pedantic, it's just not quite as cut and dry as you're representing.

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[–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Not disagreeing with current meaning behind the swastika, but it was appropriated from Sanskrit; it was not created to be hateful.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

It wasn't appropriated from Sanskrit, the design was a popular across the Indo-European cultures for millenia but happened to survive into modernity in Sanskrit. The Nazis ripped it from artifacts being found mainly in Germanic and Celtic archeology sites, they also ripped a bunch of other symbols but most of those were dropped by the start of the war, they also made the black sun symbol (I just woke up from a nap and can't rember the name) based off the solar symbols of ancient Neolithic to Bronze age Old European cultures.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s still used today in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism.

It’s not the reversed, 45-degree angle one the Nazis used to set theirs apart.

[–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

The tilted and reversed doesn't matter, the original one is allowed to be reversed and tilted as well, it's juat usually not tilted.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

i hope someday that will be the first thing people think of when they see it, again

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

ok: Lynchburg was founded in 1757 by John Lynch

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

huh. Grew up in VB. TIL.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i’m assuming he was a direct descendant… just because i want to

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In other news, ICE has now adopted the swastika and noose as their official departmental symbols

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Swastanoose it's a swastika with 4 nooses at each point.

[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

so can we make an ironic version to hang four of these traitors at a time or violence doesn't solve violence etc.

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

They call that a circle merc.

[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

About 40% of Republican staffers have gone full Nazi at this point, and the rest (and their bosses) are ok with this. Just making sure their buddies can get military training is all

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

And guy in ~~CIA~~ FBI gets fired by kash patel for hanging rainbow flag. America is cooked

Edit: wrong glowies

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

It was FBI and when it happened this summer, it was a gut punch to the queer community. I'm really glad he's standing up in court over it.

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago

Gotta focus on the truly hateful symbols, like rainbows, "everyone is welcome" signs, and abstract nouns.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

250,000 US Coast Guard Troops were deployed during WW2. A quarter of a million people. This is a hell of a disservice to their memory.

https://www.history.uscg.mil/Browse-by-Topic/Conflicts/World-War-II/

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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Here's a picture which should not be divIsive at all.

For some more about of Nazis in nooses, visit the Nuremberg executions

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

You mean soom-to-be MAGAts?

[–] nukeforyou@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So.. we can draw trump in a noose and it's cool?

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Just show up at 1600 PA Ave with diy gallows. Nbd.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

We are a diy guillotine family young man, now start acting like it

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I wouldn't try it, I'm not in the mood to be epsteined

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, I'm no spring chicken, but I wouldn't say old.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

Since it's under Homeland Security, it would be the dog murderer Gestapo Barbie or one of her underlings.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago
[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I am starting to think we need to overthrow this regime

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

For context as to what this means. When you go through your physical to enter this would be considered an acceptable tattoo and would not prevent you from joining the armed forces

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Even more sensationalism to get everyone to forget about the Epstein files.

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