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[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 122 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While I don't doubt it to be true, I'd really love a better source than "trust me bro" on Twitter.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 73 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's been a messy process, but that 300B number is something that's been floating around.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/report-of-300b-iran-fund-plan-fuels-political-backlash/ss-AA24nBp6

Whether or not it pans out remains to be seen.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump reneges on his 'allies' I can't imagine Iran would see a penny. Then again they gave Argentina billions for nothing so who knows.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago

re argentina, swap lines and private financing isn’t the US government “giving” billions

still laughable, but giving them real “fake news” ammo will only hinder

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I'm so tired how much is he asking for the rest abattoir?

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 1 month ago (2 children)

hot take, good. the usa should pay for the crimes it committed against iran.

of course it should have never committed the crimes in the first place.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Reparations to Iran, then reparations to the tribes, descendants of slaves, the Philippines and American Filipinos, Vietnam, and I just realised I don't have the energy to even write every group that occurs to me off the top of my head.

[–] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hawaiian sovereignty! Bill Clinton already officially acknowledged that the overthrow of the Kingdom was illegal, which means that Hawai'i remains an occupied territory.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago

True. Can anybody look at what American occupation has done to those islands and dispute that they deserve better?

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

American Filipinos

Hoy!

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But the taxpayers (e.g. me) are paying for this. The people making all the terrible decisions at the top are not facing any consequences. In fact, they're robbing us in plain sight.

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The taxpayers didn't do enough to elect someone better.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You're not wrong. I tried. I guess all the work that Republicans have been doing for decades to erode our education system finally paid off.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 62 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just read that the HIGHEST estimate for universal healthcare was $290B.

Just leaving that here.

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Omg but that would be SOCIALISM

According to the Trump cult, who don't know what socialism is

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't forget that people would no longer have an incentive to be healthy if they got healthcare for free!

[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Can confirm. As a person from a country with free healthcare I shoot myself in the foot every morning, just for fun.

Oh, wait, I don't. But that's only because I'm from a country with gun control laws.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's really dishonest to describe the un-freezing of funds and sanctions relief as "giving" Iran money.

It's no wonder that the Obama and Trump deals would be similar, since it's the same countries, with the same leverage, and all the same goals.

We shouldn't adopt the language of people who believe diplomacy is worthless. Instead we should be pointing out that the bombs and missiles didn't seem to help much.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The issue I have with it is not so much the "giving them money" but how for some reason there are liberals upset that the war is ending and we didn't benefit from it.

Like, yes, I agree it's silly to call it "giving them money" but they did that to Obama for years. I don't really care if the liberals jump on the same language to make Trump look stupid. Its stupid but Republicans were stupid first. Accuracy vs. Propaganda and sometimes you gotta just throw shit back.

But, a lot of these same liberals are literally war mongering. If Trump believes he is "a great deal maker" but ends the war. I'm ok with that. I don't give a fuck how it ends as long as we stop killing people. Way too much coming from liberals that are more concerned with Trump looking weak than actually ending the war.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't see anyone war mongering except on fox and online, and maybe that's because I lucked out with a place to live or perhaps they remember the last three wars a little too recently here or quite possibly a lot of it is inorganic.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I think it's more that liberals are pointing out how awful of an idea this was from the start. Trump pulled out of the Iran deal, spent billions conducting an illegal war, and what we have to show for it is a worse deal than we already had through peaceful means. It should be pointed out how awful of a mistake it was.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

It's no wonder that the Obama and Trump deals would be similar, since it's the same countries, with the same leverage, and all the same goals.

Same countries and goals, yes, but Iran has a lot more leverage now. So I really don't think the US will get such a favourable treaty this time.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well we did earn the hatred of the rest of the world. The part that didn't hate us already. Also our own hatred. Because I hate the fact that literally everything costs 50% more now, including and especially food and gas. Fuck you orange man.

[–] Someone8765210932@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You forgot another important part: Ample opportunity for stock market manipulation.

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[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Makes you think, if they can easily spare 300B how much money did they make from orchestrating all that?

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They as individuals made fuck tons of money. The nation, however, is now saddled with an additional 300b debt.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s costing this nation a fuck of a lot more than $300bb

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Of course...this is just an ADDITIONAL $300b on top of everything else.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

If Trump made even just 1B out of this personally, it's still a net profit for him since he's not paying the 300B, the US taxpayer is.

I reckon a bunch of his friends and family made many billions though. Maybe tens. Maybe hundreds.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

It also kept the Epstein files distracted for a bit.
And if I were an old, obese, orange painted, narcissistic, child rapist who was trying to cover up the decades of raping kiddies then I'd say spending 300 bill of other people's money was a steal.

[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe those MIA soldiers realized it's all for show and dipped to live authentically.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There's been inside rumors that the Pentagon, in traditional fashion, has been listing KIAs as MIA to reduce reported deaths.

I bet they are trafficking their body parts as we speak.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

ah just like the russian way, when russians were dying in ukraine they were undereporting thier deaths too.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Would not be surprised if that was really the case. It would be a typical Donal Trump Success(tm).

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He'll pay anything to avoid the words "Terms of American Surrender" as the contracts' title. Even if it is.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tbf, we never had anything to gain, or even any stated objectives afaik.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Got people off that damn Epstein for a couple of months. What's a couple of thousand people, a girls school, and some soldiers, when compared to the embarrassment of the president?

It's like watching someone on a probably fatal bender. Making bad decision after bad decision until there's only one way to go.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago

you think trump cares for these "suckers and losers, whats in it for them, and I dont like troops that captured or dead"

[–] kersplomp@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

*Makes something up*

🤣 You can NOT make this up.

Exaggerated memes are fun, but the bit at the end is entering misinformation territory which is against sub rules

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

What's the misinformation?

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

15 MIA

HA, They ded. And likely more then 15 but who knows at this point if the real cost will ever be shared. The last time we saw a war start this poorly was the full scale invasion of Ukraine.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 month ago

Shart of the deal.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Normalize misspelling the fuckers name and misspell everything he or his ilk get up to

He's so fucking stupid and loves to be mocked, if you get the spelling correct

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I mean, I know what would get Krasnov to sign any deal Iran offers. They just have to add room for two tiny balls in his seat of state.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

It's not confirmed, or settled, but yes, there are credible reports that a draft deal involves the US paying $300bn.

Of course drafts don't mean much when Trump changes his mind every five minutes. But it does appear that the proposal has at least been floated and considered.

[–] OldGrayDog@fedinsfw.app 2 points 1 month ago

Art of the deal