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‘I do not work for you’: MTG speaks out on growing rift with Trump’s White House over Epstein files
(www.independent.co.uk)
So, technically, is she a terrorist now?
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By calling MGTs choice a “very hostile act”, Trump is threatening MGT with hostility. She better not be swayed by Trumps threats. She isn’t alone. Most Americans are with her on this.
It's entirely kayfabe guys. Please read up on it, understand that our entire future of politics and social discourse is going to be kayfabe. The sooner we can digest and accept this fact the sooner we can use this as a tool instead of trying to "take the higher road" which our population has broadly forgotten about.
I am sad that so many progressives and leftists are not seeing this for what it is.
I hate it here.
I am with MTG on this.
[nearly throws up a little]
It really goes to show you how fucking dumb she is though. Yeah, good, she's sticking to her principles here (that or her check hasn't come through yet), but she actually believes all the bullshit she's been peddling for these years. If she isn't corrupt, she's just a complete fucking imbecile.
They all are dumber than we give them credit, covid really laid that bare in some respects.
I don't share this sentiment. Not only because I don't believe they are all stupid, but because I feel it lets them off the hook. They can basically get away with anything if we say they are just stupid when, in fact, they know exactly what they are doing. I believe the vast majority of them are very intelligent, they are just greedy, corrupt, evil fucks.
She's both.
This is a really good thing because we need a maga split from within to get out of this mess
This [FPTP] is the weapon of the enemy, we do NOT (need to) USE it.
Any Condorcet method would yield a significant improvement in representation accuracy, but it would trigger one heck of a party re-alignment.
how many other high profile republicans are there aside from MTG who have broken from trump on this? I bet you can count the names on one hand.
I’m not really talking about corrupt government officials I’m talking about the maga sheep who seem to be out there killing eachother all of a sudden. We know that they’re violent extremist but they might be waking up to the fact they were conned by pedo Don
they aren't.
I still think she's insane, but I wish we had more progressive, D congresspersons that had this attitude of serving The People instead of the DNC.
Aren't the progressives all on board with forcing the files to be released?
On this particular issue, yes. But I think they're talking about other things that the Democratic party supports but that are bad for their constituents.
If we aren't just talking about this specific instance and instead we're talking about her attitude in general, is that really the attitude we want to see in progressive politicians?
She bucked the party on war with iran, gaza, and geo engineering.
So yes, fighting against the imperial mandates of party leadership is something we should want to see in all dems, as effective as their meek acquiesance has been...
As far as I know yes.
But, D congresspersons rarely speak against party leadership.
Democrats don't, but the progressives who caucus with Democrats do.
Depends on the progressive, I'd say. But, they are certainly more willing to, so I might have been better to leave that adjective out of my comment.
You think the jewish space lasers cunt is insane? What gives? The bar is really low for americans to side with someone.
It's crazy that there's any other position.
Bernie fucking Sanders just sits there like a dumb bitch "calling Trump out." All these people pursuing "more important matters" while a systemic child raping conspiracy is allowed to turn into a circus.
And this is who we have. A handful of nutters who are the only ones "crazy" enough to care. All the other career politicians can go Kirk themselves.
Though I hate having to support MTG, I think we actually should, just for the moment. Strange bed fellows for sure, but just try to keep it together for a minute. If she can pull enough maga away for maga and the GOP to fall to pieces, I think it's a good day for everyone
Yeah, broken clock and all that. I think she genuinely cares about protecting kids, but has an extremely warped idea of what that entails.
Also, she's one of the few in that crowd to stick to her guns and it and not flip to the party narrative.
Even if she's generally a terrible person, is doing it for shitty reasons, or hasn't done it in the past. It's actually a good thing that it's happening at right now and should be encouraged.
The people maligning her reasons are ultimately made by those with worse motives, be it for genocide or protecting this israeli honeypot blackmail for israel.
The accusers have the worst motives and anyone that uncritically repeats them is playing you not acknowledging that.
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well, she won't be in office for much longer. The democrats already think she's a fucking idiot and now she's angered der fuhrer.
Yep. Sold her soul to be a republican lapdog and is having a full blown "Leopards Ate My Face" moment.
I can't decide if I'll feel sorry for her or not when she gets Epstein'd or Kirk'd
Maybe the leopards will come up with something new for here when they finally fully turn on the once useful idiot.
I take it back, I won't feel sorry for her. She's just finding out that she's going to win a very stupid price from all those fascist games she's been playing.
Either she had an epiphany and saw what she is doing will end her up in prison and probably hell if it exists in her world.
Maybe she is starting to understand she is going to be held accountable in a few years and doesnt want to end up in the concentration camps they send immigrants to.
In what universe are any of these people going to be held accountable??
The safest route for sure is to just follow the pack and not stand out. Unless you think that the average Republican has a serious risk of ending up in prison, in which case you're more delusional than she is.
I'm old enough to remember when people (including my young and naive self) thought that the Bush administration would be held accountable for illegal torture and spying and all that. Democrats got a supermajority and didn't touch them, and even continued a lot of the shit they'd been doing. The rule of law simply doesn't apply to you if the only people who could enforce it against you are these soft, civility-obsessed careerists. It's pure cope to think otherwise.
No, she wants power games and shitting on people. She’s just not ok with Trump playing power games and shitting on her. She’s a terrible person, and I’m all for a battle of idiots between her and Trump.
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Ugh... I hate myself for supporting Jewish Space lazers trash Nazi here.
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She can do one good thing in her life if she just completely fractures the Republican party.
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I wonder if MTG is the Republican Party experiencing the 4chan effect: if you build your community around pretending to be batshit insane, you'll eventually attract genuinely batshit insane people who aren't in on the joke. It could be that she doesn't realize most of the elected GOP is just pretending to go along with the right-wing outrage du jour to support their cult, and she's genuinely confused about why they're no longer interested in the epstein affair.
That, or she just sees the writing on the wall and is trying to distance herself from it. Either way, fuck her and the shitbags she made a bed with.
Yea in the 90s proper Republicans knew things like Rush Limbaugh were just to get the rubes riled up, but now the rubes are running the show. Even the president sits around watching Fox News for hours a day.
I've been saying that about the Conservative movement for literally 40 years.
I started listening to Rush Limbaugh when he first came on the air in the late 80s. His listenership was growing rapidly, easily the biggest media story of the time. My Critical Thinking Skills are too well-honed to succumb to his nonsense, but I listened to caller after caller tell him that they'd never heard anyone that could make politics make sense to them before.
I knew he was lying about EVERYTHING, and wondered where America would be if he stayed on the air, with that level of success, for the next few generations. I thought that eventually we will have people growing up around the dinner table with Dad (or Mom) ranting about whatever Rush was lying about that day, and then those kids would grow up and raise THEIR kids the same way.
Eventually we would have a huge segment of the population who have been exposed to the worst bad-faith propaganda possible on an intergenerational basis, especially as the Conservative Propaganda Machine grew and became more experienced and sophisticated.
Rush Limbaugh, and the propagandists of his time knew they were lying, but their followers didn't. They grew up believing the bullshit, and raised their children on the same bullshit. Now we have a large portion of America who actually live in an alternative reality, created by the Conservative Propaganda Machine, even though 2/3 of America, and the entire rest of the world, live in reality.
It's bad enough that these people see America through these treasonous glasses, but now we have people running. For office, and winning, who were raised and politically educated exclusively by the Conservative Propaganda Machine. Gullible, delusional people are actually running America, based their decisions and policies on the bad faith propaganda that Russia has been steadily feeding to the Conservative Propaganda Machine, which then regurgitated to America.
IF we ever get out of this, it will be crucial to somehow reconcile the 1st Amendment and Freedom of Speech with highly-organized bad-faith propaganda, designed to literally destroy our nation.
Do we really have to tolerate such an abuse of our Constitution? If the answer is Yes, then we, as a nation, need to be stronger in resisting those who would would take advantage of our national morality. We have to agree that it isn't a bad thing to harshly slap down those who have treasonous intentions.
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