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The South will rise again!

-The underlying belief motivating all of this

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 3 points 26 minutes ago

Because you people didn't punish the South after the civil war and then let a bunch of richwhitemen run the fucking country.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 21 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Why? Because we're an oligarchy from the start and this is what happens when special interests run the show for decades (centuries, even)

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

This is what everyone fails to see. The US was corrupt to begin with. Our first President was on his way to becoming the world's first billionaire adjusted for inflation and he would have if not for dying at 67.

People are like how did we get so corrupt!?

eye roll

Did you just notice, because it has always been this way.

[–] hoppeduponcoffee@lemmy.zip 2 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

It’s almost like our country was predicated on having the “liberty” to engage in cronyism and oligarchy.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 57 seconds ago

A county formed by the wealthy for the wealthy for sure.

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 22 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

If I visit the States, should I visit Micihgan, Missssssppq, or the sunny Pqsqr keys?

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 3 points 17 minutes ago

I prefer South Carouna.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

Lol, the clanker can't even spell Mississippi.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 5 points 7 hours ago

So each of 10 rich assholes can own each of 10 pieces?

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 hours ago

Fascism gonna fasc.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

Pride, hate, and greed

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 24 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The billionaires are now richer than many nation states.

I guess the next development is that they will start to go to war against each other over commercial advantage.

Guess who will be in the front line as part of the Great Amazon-SpaceX War?

Not Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I, for one, welcome the possibility of corporate gun battles to spice up my morning commute.

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure if you got my suggestion.

You won't be commuting, you will be dodging killer drones with Burger King logos.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 2 points 30 minutes ago

...yeah. like I said, commuting. Tbh probably safer, at least killer AI drones are gonna drive better than the DODGE DUI in the next lane.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 44 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago

Indeed, +1.

[–] sportsjorts@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 hours ago

This is the answer. And Curtis Yarvin’s technofuedlist neo dark age dream that all the hyper wealthy have injected into thier brains.

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 23 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I’m sorry. Are people actually confused about why? It’s all just personal enrichment. This isn’t complicated.

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Usually, if you want enrich yourself or your friends, you'd want to create a climate favorable to economic growth and skim little off the top of that using the usual corruption methods. You don't want to start a multitude of trade or literal wars that threaten the global economy.

If it wasn't for Trump being the cause of this, you'd almost think this collapse is intentional...

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

That's how you do it until you start to bump against the limits of growth. When the growth is done, profits no longer matter as much as straight ownership of what remains, and it's easier to take pieces if you smash it first.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 24 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The question nobody seems to have an answer to is, “Why?”

  1. Is it that (...) Trump’s been a Russian agent for decades and is setting us up to lose to the newly-forming Axis of Russia and China?
  2. Is it that he spent so many years burning with rage and embarrassment at not being accepted by New York high society that he’s just come to hate America?
  3. Could it be that American-values-hating foreign powers that have poured literally billions of dollars into the Trump family are paying him to tear us apart so they’ll never again have to endure the humiliation of having their human, civil, and women’s rights records called out by a future administration?
  4. Is it possible it’s all just to pay for tax cuts for billionaires?
  5. Or are his, Vance’s, and Musk’s white supremacist, Christian nationalist, libertarian, and/or neo-Nazi ideologies so intense that they’re willing to essentially burn the country down just to expel immigrants, deny benefits to people of color, elevate the rich, crush unions, and re-subordinate women?

Trump's personal motives aside, I think it's mostly #4, but it goes a little further than just tax cuts: certain people who pay MAGA a lot of money want to abolish any form of a functioning state in favor of their vision of corporate entities ruling the land.

PS: the articke doesn't have an answer either.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

First and foremost it's because he is literally insane, and doesn't give a shit about the harm he is causing.
So whatever it is he wants, he doesn't give a shit about the consequences to others. If 10 people need to die for him to earn 1 dollar, he will do it, if there are no negative consequences to himself.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 50 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

A mixture of stupidity and cruelty. Those things usually go together. Also so much racism, which is a subcategory of stupid and cruel.

There are a lot of people who would rather personally suffer and die than see a black person have something nice. That's been festering here for decades.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 hours ago

There are a lot of people who would rather personally suffer and die than see a black person have something nice. That's been festering here for decades.

And when Obama was elected, it permanently broke something in their brains

[–] ContactClosure@lemmus.org 1 points 8 hours ago

That's what it looks like but that's on purpose. I think most of the fascism is a distraction from the feudalist state that's being built before our very own eyes.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 14 points 17 hours ago

You forgot greed!

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

They have been doing this looooong before donnie d'felon came onto the scene.

See Newt's GOPAC and how they documented their tactics to demonize normal Americans, in other words, anyone not a conservative/ Republican in their memo: Language: A Key Mechanism of Control. The evidence goes back further than that (see Democracy in Chains for how little conservatives really care about democracy, or how Nixon was going after "drugs" in order to go after their political foes), but this is from 1990.

https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/featured/mechanism-control-1990-gop-memo-reshaped-american-politics-turning-language-weapon/

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Oh yes the War on Minorities err I mean Drugs.

Nothing like destroying millions of minority families and disproportionally locking up anyone who is not white.

Honestly, the whole Democracy thing is just a smoke screen for oligarchy rule. The US government pits the house (supposed to represent the people) against the senate, judicial, and executive branch (representing the wealthy). 3 to 1 odds are pretty shitty and a poor excuse for a democracy that ultimately is lip service only.

[–] ZeroCool@piefed.ca 27 points 20 hours ago
[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The billionaire global coup. The US used to be a rallying force in the west, if nothing else. Now that’s dead, on the off chance someone with resources may want to fight back.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

When was the US a “rallying force”? I remember them being the worst example of how to run a modern civilization, and I remember always being ranked far too low in personal freedoms, education, and healthcare while be far to high up for prison population and gun violence.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 6 hours ago

All true. Also true was the global political influence. Dust, now.

[–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

US has been riding on the intentions of FDR, but the Democratic National Convention of '44 where the southern democrats couped and replaced Wallace with a nobody from Missouri because FDR was too ill to go to bat for his long time VP is the cause for 80% of today's problems (that is a stat I pulled straight out my gooch, but I stand by it to be roughly accurate).

[–] newton@feddit.online 15 points 18 hours ago

Epstein files ? Everybody 🤔 ? Nobody🤔?

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago

Because they want to divide up territory with the tech bros and be governors to their own little spaces.

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 8 points 19 hours ago

I think they know that what they’ve been doing for ~100 years is ruining the planet but they’d rather double down on hoarding shit than live normal lives to slow or fix anything.

They’re the type of people that would immediately violate the rights of anyone and everyone if society stopped for even one day. They protect that onto everyone else and they feel compelled to take it all before anyone else can have any.

[–] alexquiniou@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago

You are acting like he has a plan or being intelligent. Madness and stupidity is none of them.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What, vote for a woman?

What war? Gas prices are so high now!

[–] jagermo@feddit.org 2 points 16 hours ago

I hear she laughed funny

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 3 points 19 hours ago

Because it sells