cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16451158
This is not true, voting is the problem. You think it will solve problems, but it won't!! Both sides work for the same team. Find a way out with unions
this post was submitted on 25 Jul 2026
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Wow that post triggered a lot of people good job OP. Luckily m country is not yet two party
Almost a good meme. Should have ended you are the problem.
Both sides are bad. One is markedly worse though.
Yes. Also, there is zero, ZERO path to anything better through the Republocan party.
There are plenty of ways to eventually get somewhere through the Dems. It may mean "suffing" alot of do nothing bull shit, but there are paths and ways.
The fun part is, that the Republicans didn't even start out as a Maga cult party. They got infiltrated. Not just by rich people, but by people from all sorts of backgrounds, joining or voting for support. Nothing is stopping the left from doing the same with the Democrats. But for that to happen, they'd need to stop with the constant purity tests...
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i take every opportunity to shit on, mock, ridicule, insult, verbally abuse bothsidesbad dipshits everywhere they show their stupid fucking faces
whatever happened to all the "vOtE 3rD pArTy BeCuZ gEnOcIdE" fucking morons? actually j/k i don't miss them at all. how's that iran war going? we sure helped palestine by throwing away our vote, huh? fucking idiot clowns
Why do people keep purposely misrepresenting the criticism people had for Harris? Like, I know, it was hard at the time to listen to people warning about her potential to lose. But, we have the advantage of hindsight now. Do we have to pretend the main criticism of Harris was that Trump would be better? No one that wasn't a grifter was saying that.
The vast vast majority of people criticizing Harris were doing so because they correctly warned people that if she did not separate herself from Biden and run FOR something turnout would be low and she would lose.
- The people critizing her for trying to run "strong border" ads were correct.
- The people that criticized her for saying "nothing comes to mind" when asked if she would have done anything differently than Biden were correct.
- The people that criticized the campaign for stopping the very well received "weird" messaging Walz brought. They were correct. Walz brought momentum and they shut it up. It's like they were allergic to things that were working and getting people interested in her campaign.
- The people that critized her when she suddenly stopped talking about her ONE concrete policy idea on grocery store price controls. They were correct. She stopped talking about a vastly popular position because Trump called her "communist". And then they kept calling her a "communist" anyway.
- The people that criticized her for supporting Bidens Israel policy; THEY WERE CORRECT. We are living in a world were 75% of lifelong Democrats are against any support for Israel. This didn't happen overnight. This has been happening since Bidens genocide began. And her absolute failure to LEAD and understand were the country was heading was a complete failure. We told you in 2024. The country was begging for a real leader and this issue would shown that she had that ability to lead. That she could call a spade a spade and not be another bull shit politician afraid to upset AIPAC. She failed.
Do you know what a leader does? They LEAD and guide others in the correct direction. We are there NOW. The people that vote for the Democratic party are ALWAYS significantly ahead of there leaders on the actual issues. They were begging for a leader that would actually step forward and be unafraid and unapologetic in leading on issues and policy.
We don't have to wonder. We are literally seeing it growing RIGHT NOW. From Mamdani to Abdul (soon) we are seeing anti Israel and leftwing populism wipe the floor with Harris style Democrats.
A 15 term incumbent losing DEMOCRATIC primaries to a 29 year old that was saying "fuck Kamala Harris" for not taking a stand against Israel. The people you are crying about that "lost Kamala the election". They are the people literally going out and organizing right now because they are sick and tired of having to explain why the Democratic party keeps losing to Trump and being told "you're the reason Harris lost."
We're done with just explaining it. We're done being used as a scapegoat for the failures of the Democratic party when we offer constructive criticism. We're forcing these politicians out of office that refuse to actually lead.
I don't know a single person I organize with in DSA that didn't go vote for Harris. We aren't the ones that didn't show up. The ones that didn't show up were the people that didn't even know who the presidential candidates were a week before the election. And a lot of them didn't have reason enough to take off work, not be able to pick their kid up from daycare on time, or didn't want to get stuck in traffic, so they decided to not vote that day.
So, please, stop pretending the people actually organizing for good candidates like Mamdani were the people that didn't show up. And, please, come join us at DSA and help us elect people that actually have the motivation and knowledge to be leaders.
Edit: And for the love of God, please stop confusing the majority of the socialist movement with Anarkiddies and the socialist that like to LARP as Maoist third worldist online. We don't like them much either. They are kinda stinky and need to shower. But, they aren't worth even caring about. They don't have any negative effects outside your twitter feed.
I don't know a single person I organize with in DSA that didn't go vote for Harris. We aren't the ones that didn't show up.
Why are you writing novels to defend yourself against something that wasn't even directed at you?
OP clearly referenced people who protest-voted against Harris and subsequently made everything measurably worse for the Palestinians and Earth at large (which was obviously going to happen if Trump won).
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It sounds like you supported Hillary and still don't understand why she lost, so you keep the same approach... In reality, tens of millions of voters actually care who the Dem candidate is. If you feed them a pro-corporate anti-worker center-right tool, they might stay home. That is reality, my friend. Blame them all you want. I would blame the DNC, but you do you.
There was a primary, she won the primary. Sure the DNC tried to sway public opinion, but ultimately the voters gave us Hillary. That is reality my friend.
There's a difference between supporting the ideology of a candidate, and supporting effective voting. You can blame the DNC for pushing a bad candidate, but the people who'd rather stay home than choose lesser evil deserve the greater evil when they get it.
You play the hand you're dealt, not the one you wish you had.
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They were bots. All of them. And the public is too dumb to tell.
Great job punchin' left and missin' the whole point. 👍
LOL yup there it is
and no. i didn't miss shit. try again
all you're going to come back with is "uR dUm" or something equally stupid.
the fact is 3rd party/ abstaining is objectively the dumbest fucking position anyone could ever take, and now we have a fascist rapist racist pedophile president who sucks israel's cock. honestly gtfo with your vote 3rd party bullshit. fucking clowns
Continuing to antagonize the people you want to help you is pretty close to just as stupid.
yea. "catch more flies with honey" right?
reasonable non-stupid people have been trying that for YEARS
DECADES
and here we are. yes, it's possible harris would have been worse for palestine than trump has been.
LOL j/k no fucking way.
but yea. i will continue to antagonize. these people aren't helping anyone, they're harming. fuck them
You idiots have been antagonizing people for decades. I say idiots because you think this insulting drivel is honey?
This is why Democrats lose.
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abstaining is objectively the dumbest fucking position anyone could ever take
One of the other positions is pro rape, pro concentration camps and pro explosive diarrhea.
Then you should be voting against it.
That’s all the same thing, not 2 sides. If you’re abstaining, you’re supporting the pro rape, pro concentration camps, and pro explosive diarrhoea.
Vote in the primaries. Vote in the general. Know who you’re voting for or against, make sure you haven’t been purged.
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I vote so I can cancel out a maga vote
Oh is it the time of year for liberals to start telling us we can no longer complain?
Complaining is fine, butinaction or negative action, is not at all productive to fixing those complaints, ever. Life is very often about compromise.
And at the scales we are talking about, it barely qualifies as "the lesser of two evils," because one of the two meaningful choices is so much MORE evil it makes the other evil pretty much saintlike.
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votes third party
No not like that
Seriously though, I think it's important to confront and admit that voting for the lesser evil does legitimize the evil they do, even if the greater evil does it worse. Because critically digesting both that fact alongside the fact that voting for the lesser evil really does result in better outcomes for society is what will actually get the hesitant on board with going and doing it. If you try to dismiss or handwave that fact, you are dismissing and handwaving the very real concerns of the disillusioned non-participants. Acknowledging the dissonance is far better.
I think it's also important to point out that while direct action and social organizing are the most effective things things you can do to change society, they are incredibly time consuming while voting usually takes 5 - 30 minutes. And if you're actually interested in the former, there's little to no excuse to avoid the latter.
Just whatever you do, don't shame people for being disillusioned. That makes people really dig in their heels.
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No, not voting for either genocide party.
No one is obligated to vote for Democrats based on lesser evilism. We're circling the drain with a neoliberal/reactionary crisis cycle in perpetual imperial war while wealth keeps consolidating upward and working people get crushed. The billionaire donor base they solicit money from is the same, their economic and foreign policies are quite similar. Even when Democrats have achieved majorities at the state level they serve their masters, not the economic interests of the people.
Workers party now.
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Both the Republican and Democratic parties are cults at this point. This post proves it.
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I relate to the SPIRIT of the meme, but quite honestly, here in 2026, I don't know if the conclusion holds any water anymore. It turns out WAY more people are WAY more shit than I ever expected and I'm no longer convinced high turnout means victory for anything good.
Maybe they WERE the silent majority all along...
If the States didn't have a system that makes voting third-party an effectively wasted vote, this strategy wouldn't be as overwhelming.
That's why you Vote for Pedro... duh!
Pedro - Jill Stein
Tomato - Tomato
Same effect…
Still peddeling this bullshit.
No shit. Because they dont like the gun, they let a rapist sleep with their kids, then blame the lazy cops for not doing shit to repair a situation they could have prevented.
Anything but admit they failed.