kieron115

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[–] kieron115@startrek.website 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I do, in fact. I get that they are typically open-source, and I also understand how ridiculously difficult it is to create one from scratch. If LibreWolf or whoever want to make privacy focused browsers based on mozilla foundation or google's work then that's fine and I support it, but I'm personally curious if there are any mainstream browsers that don't have any (or minimal) reliance on google and mozilla foundation. Someone pointed me towards an engine in development Servo which looks quite interesting! Hopefully there will be a browser based on it soon.

https://www.spacebar.news/servo-undercover-web-browser-engine/

At the start of the millennium, Internet Explorer used its own Trident engine on Windows and Tasman on Mac, Opera used Presto, some embedded devices used NetFront, Netscape had Gecko, and KDE made KHTML for its Konqueror browser. Those browsers eventually faded away or adopted a competing engine to simplify development. KHTML was the basis for Safari's WebKit, which in turn became Chromium's Blink engine, and Netscape's Gecko engine became the foundation for Firefox. Opera ditched its custom Presto engine in 2013 and switched to Chromium, and Microsoft Edge made the same move in 2020.

This is a danger to the open web in more ways than one. If there is only one functioning implementation of a standard, the implementation becomes the standard. The web becomes to Google what Java is to Oracle. It also means the limitations and security flaws in Chromium affect most other browsers, which became a topic of conversation with Google's recent Manifest V3 transition.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

lol if it ever gets to that point i'm just gonna go straight Lynx.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 2 months ago

Oh good, more rust! (j/k i don't have the feverish hatred of rust that some people seem to)

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[–] kieron115@startrek.website 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's still a fork of Firefox, isn't it? I was hoping to find a reasonably modern browser that doesn't rely on gecko or blink. I'd be okay with a WebKit browser but I don't have a Mac.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 2 months ago

BRB, need to ask Randall Munroe a "what if' question real quick for completely unrelated reasons...

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (17 children)

If anyone has any suggestions for browsers hook me up, I'm running out of browsers with thier own engines to try. I don't see much point in using, say, LibreWolf if the engine is still the same as Firefox (Gecko in this case). Maybe I'll give NetSurf a try and pretend like it's 1996 again.

edit i don't see much point because doing some about:config shenanigans is nearly the same amount of work to me as switching browsers.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago

My guess is "places that have lots of predators and don't want them being attracted to residential areas". I can see an argument for banning chickens in a suburb if, say, little Susie down the street got attacked by a hungry coyote that couldn't make it into any of the coops (i have no clue if coyotes would attack a kid or not, just an example).

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 2 months ago

That's a shame, they should have stuck to cock magic instead.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Stupid roosters, start off at full volume and save some time! (/s if it wasnt clear)

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 6 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Could you elaborate on this please? The only thing I remember about Narcissus is that, when he was born, a seer or something made a prophecy that he would live forever so long as he never knew himself. He had a bunch of suitors, all of whom he spurned, until one day he saw his own reflection in a lake. Being unable to obtain the only thing he has ever loved (himself), he sat by the lake staring until he died.

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