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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago

Easier to replace a renter who stops paying than foreclose a home occupant that stops paying.

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

Mortgage is more expensive because you are paying the premium for flexibility of becoming homeless with less hustle.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 24 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Well yeah, that $1400 rent is paying your landlords mortgage, which the bank also owns. So you see, they would make less money if you get out of there.

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 90 points 1 day ago (18 children)

I will play devil’s advocate and note that when you own a home you are responsible for all the costs of the house, not just the mortgage. I’ll see myself out.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 hours ago

And I'll just note that any landlord is going to charge enough in rent to cover all the costs of the house, not just the mortgage, as well as profit for themselves. Otherwise they're not going to be a landlord for long.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Good point, but I think we all know that's not the reason.

Devil's advocate...it's not the $950 monthly mortgage, it may also be the $15,000 down payment?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

There's the $3000 roof, $5000 for the leaks in the basement. If you don't fix the roof or the basement, the house is worth less to them if you default.

The bank really does not give a fuck, it's just a risk to them.

Also the loan they're making you on $950 is tiny. They want a hell of alot more money.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

your credit rating also has to be higher for a mortgage. OP may have massive debts already so they can't really sustain more.

[–] allidoislietomyself@lemmy.world 32 points 23 hours ago (16 children)

Ain't that the truth. In the past 2 months my garage door spring, water heater, and dryer unit all decided to take a shit. Drained my savings pretty quick.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 42 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Same. It's a good thing I pay hundreds less per month on a mortgage instead of the going rent rate, which enables me to have savings in the first place. Not being forced to move every year and incur the equivalent costs of an appliance or two also helps.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

For me the biggest reason to buy is simply quality of life. On paper, sure, renting comes with ease of mind. You don't have to do maintenance and the landlord takes care of everything. However, the responsible landlord is the personal finance analog of the physicist's spherical cow. Landlords are in the business to make a buck. They never do any maintenance unless absolutely forced to do so by either the law or market conditions. If the city isn't going to condemn the property, and as long as they can keep it rented, they don't give a damn. However, when something at the landlord's house needs fixing, it's undoubtedly fixed quickly and properly.

I like owning a house because it ensures that I can actually have a pleasant place to live. Landlords have no incentive so keep their properties actually livable rather than just inhabitatable.

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[–] pahlimur@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'll add to this a bit. I know so many people who want to buy a fixer upper to save money. We went that route, and while my mortgage is sort of low, the repair costs are insane. I did all the work myself, and we spent over $100k in 5 years. Houses are expensive to own if you care about them.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Fixer uppers are better the less you give a shit. For example mine i will be sealing the basement and redoing the bathroom. Aside from that i don't give a fuck about the dated walls and floors. I don't care about the kitchen cabinets or the stains on the counter top.

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

Give less shit, and give more time. Fix the absolutely major things now, and do something smaller every year. Unless you're planning to flip the thing, you have time.

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[–] Rajtinka@lemmy.world 139 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don't worry. That same bank will give you an auto loan for $750/mo for 7 years at just 9% interest. That way you'll always have a place to live....

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[–] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

The neat part about fractional banking is that the bank is allowed to just "create" money out of thin air and issue the debt to you. They don't have to have the money to issue the mortgage. They don't care that your debt is "risky" because investment banking is really just run off of vibes at this point.

Historically and today, discrimination has been a big factor in who gets approved for mortgages.

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[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago (8 children)

Well if we’re actually going to be honest nowhere in the US is there a $950 mortgage. My mortgage is 2k for a $250k house so 1k mortgage would literally be living in a slum.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Not US but Atlantic Canada.

I have a 14 acre farm I bought 4 years ago.

My mortgage is just over $900 a month. Home insurance is $250

[–] AlJones@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Depends when you bought your house.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

If they are renting and denied a mortgage then i think its safe to assume they haven't bought a house

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (7 children)
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[–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

Obviously inaccurate.

[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 12 points 19 hours ago

Or in the absolute middle of nowhere.

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

That really depends, are you counting the mortgage as the mortgage + property taxes + insurance?

Your "mortgage" payment is usually a bundled escrow payment. My mortgage is only 425 every two weeks, but I pay the property taxes (5600 yearly) and insurance separately. I bought the house for 235k ten years ago, is value is currently 475k (according to Zillow)

I live in one of the richer areas of greater Cincinnati, in one of the top 10 school districts in the entire state of Ohio. I wouldn't call it a slum.

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 15 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

Banks like making money. Mortgages are a great way to make money for a bank.

If you're being turned down by the bank, it's not because the bank is passing up an opportunity to make money in order to keep you from owning a home. It's because their risk models say that if they give you the loan, they might not make money.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago

If you’re being turned down by the bank, it’s not because the bank is passing up an opportunity to make money in order to keep you from owning a home. It’s because their risk models say that ~~if they give you the loan, they might not make money~~ they think they'll make more money loaning that cash to your landlord.

Banks fuck up all the time. They are not run by immaculate money wizards. The idea that you aren't getting a house loan because you're a big risk, but Sam Bankman-Fried secured $60B because FTX was a safe bet, hasn't born out in practice.

They do show a heavy bias towards people who already have (or appear to have) a great deal of money. So that institutional bias fucks individual lenders over in the long run, while creating a great deal of financial risk at the top of the wealth pyramid.

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