It's not even a real democracy.
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AOC can definitely do the job. I don't think there's any questions there. Her presidential run is a given long term. But running in 2028 is very much a last ditch effort to save democracy and I hope Americans understand that.
The root problem is American apathy. While AOC might be a solution to that, the concern I have is how big of a target a presidential run puts on her. AOC in many ways is the political successor of Bernie Sanders. We're all expecting his passing before 2040. If the GOP/ETC target AOC, and she falls, who will lead in her stead?
What worries me (as a non-american) is that if American's don't unify the movement will die with her.
The root problem is American apathy.
No. The root problem is America. For its very short existence, the breakaway genocidal settler colony of the genocidal globe spanning European empire has been at war for all but a dozen years, and more than half of those were during the most brutal chattel slavery project on the planet and all of them were during the total genocide and erasure campaign against the native inhabitants of the land they occupy.
America is and always has been a white supremacist genocidal mass murdering war mongering misogynistic ChristoFascist European setter state and no amount of voting has ever changed that
True, but none of that matters for 2028
It all matters for 2028. Because in case you didn't notice, every time a D has won the presidency, the same baby killing machine keeps on grinding along without any issues. Obama/Biden appointed Tom Homan to run DHS/ICE while they reorg'd it so it became possible to deploy into major urban areas. Obama deported 3M people. Trump made Homan his deportation czar in both terms, using the framework that Obama/Biden put in place for him. And Biden knew all of that and changed literally nothing about the policy structure of DHS/ICE while he was in office.
Bush2 admin selected a bunch of countries to topple. 2 of them were Libya and Syria. Obama/Clinton did Libya, and they devastated that place and now it hosts open-air slave markets. Biden/Harris finished did Syria, and the new president of Syria they put in place was a terrorist with a bounty on his head. He was literally decapitating people and Biden/Harris dropped the bounty and made him president of Syria.
Corporations make more profits under Democrats.
Racialized mass incarceration is bi-partisan.
Occupation of colonized lands is bi-partisan.
Mass murder through sanctions of over 800k people each year is bi-partisan.
Global war mongering is bi-partisan.
Ecocide is bi-partisan.
Protecting capitalism is bi-partisan.
This is not solved by voting. It's not solved by primaries. It's solved the same way women got the right to vote, the same way black people got civil rights protections, and the same way labor unions got weekends and sick days.
That comment is 100% correct while also contributing absolutely nothing of value.
I agree with you in principle but until you can outgrow your .ML conditioning it's very pointless to engage you.
Have fun jerking yourself off tho.
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I mean, I’m in. But i’m not Texas, Florida, and Tennessee.
None of those states need to be won by a Democratic president.
She is missing a lot of international affairs experience. I don't agree with her on everything, but she seems to have the long term welfare of her constituents take priority over lining her pockets. And it appears they genuinely like her and her tough love policies even after the honeymoon phase. While it's fun to watch, getting under the skin of elderly sexist conservatives is not the best leadership a country as diverse as the US needs if the tribalism is to be turned down. I'm open to be surprised though. She be better for the US than a lot of obvious next candidates for president for sure
AOC is too far right for me I'm looking for a real progressive.
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I don't think so. She's decidedly fallen more in line with the mainstream Dems than I'd like. Whether that's just a survival technique & she re-emerges as the person she started out as once she's up on top is anybody's guess.
See I don’t understand what you people mean by that? Is this because she stuck by Biden and Harris during the campaign trail??? That’s hoe you do successful politics. It’s easier to get your agenda through when the executive branch is controlled by your party.
Example. If Kamala won the 2024 election and had similar margins in congress as Trump does now. Progressives in the house like AOC would have enough votes to block all of her reconciliation (budget bills the US needs to fund itself), until she conditioned aid to Israel. Or Harris could fight with them on that GOR FOUR YEARS, and get nothing meaningful done.
Progressives in the house can’t do any of that right now, because the executive branch is controlled by Donald Trump.
You low-ball my understanding. I know all that, which is why I mentioned it possibly being merely a survival technique. However, she's tried to play "both sides" a bit too often in recent years for my liking - on issues ranging from Amazon warehouse workers to Israel.
While she may still generally be on the people's side, I fear she may have been convinced to be "more pragmatic," which really means continued support of the status quo in fear of disrupting too many lives with significant change. Significant, rapid change is the only thing that will save this country, IMHO, or the oligarchs will just figure out how to corrupt things again.
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