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[–] iatenine@piefed.social 1 points 10 minutes ago (1 children)

The word "all" in this post says "all" you need to know about how pathetic OP (as in who initially wrote it) truly is

[–] Planchette_Phantom@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 minutes ago

Nah, just me trying to cope while I'm homeless and about to cut contact with my mother and elder siblings. I'm trying to survive and am actively working on myself, but suffer from legitimate disorders resulting from trauma–one of them is severe enough that I can't hold down a job, even though I've actively tried.

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 15 points 1 hour ago (6 children)

He accidentally made an argument for not blaming your parents since you'd move out of the building rather than continue moving to various floors in it.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 17 points 1 hour ago (4 children)

Yeah, at a certain point, you can continue to blame them, but the responsibility to fix it ultimately falls on you regardless. Go ahead and blame them, but don’t use it as an excuse to not work on yourself and improve.

[–] fork@feddit.online 2 points 25 minutes ago

There are some things that can't be fixed. Being physically impacted by a decision your parent made can't just be undone, depending on what it is. It could be intentional or it could be an accident, but it's still permanent.

[–] BewareOfIdiot@nord.pub 14 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Like most difficulties in life, be it trauma, neurodivergance, or any number of other issues; they're explanations, not excuses.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Much like mental illness. Your depression doesn't stop you from working out or going for a walk, but it might make it really really hard to start. You can use that as an excuse and never start or you can acknowledge this is why you never want to start. You just have to do it, or rely on someone to get you to do it like a good friend or partner.

If you let depression stop you from walking you'll never walk and get the benefits from it which could help you beat or mitigate depression. Maybe after 2 years of daily walks you won't be depression free, but its almost guaranteed you'll be doing better.

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 0 points 11 minutes ago

Wow thanks I’m cured.

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Blame is a mechanism specifically designed to absolve oneself of responsibility. "Hey, I just wanted to let everyone know this fucked up thing I do is because my mom didn't tie my shoelaces properly.". The people affected by your actions don't need to know why you do this fucked up thing, they just want you to stop doing it to them.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 4 points 35 minutes ago

It can be, and is often used that way, but it doesn't have to be.

And, generally, knowing the root causes of problems helps in best figuring out how to fix them.

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 2 points 29 minutes ago

Or, better yet, rather than blaming, realize they are flawed like all people, and that they accidentally or purposefully instilled some bad qualities in you - the sort all people have.

Be mindful of the origin of those bad qualities and how you have acted over the years to reinforce them. Then, knowing the origin of your bad behaviors and ways of thinking, you can improve.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 0 points 59 minutes ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago) (1 children)

Go on then, fix the foundations of society... Fix the whole economic/political system of Capitalism.

Do it. It's clearly about generational problems and the wealth structures of society.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 3 points 57 minutes ago

I’ll stick to myself thanks. That’s enough of a challenge.

[–] PoastRotato@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You can't really move out though. The metaphor is that your parents construct the lower floors of your building based on how they raised you. In real life, you can't un-raise yourself or rewrite history, so moving out and into a new building with better foundations isn't an option. Best you can do is get some outside help to throw in some external supports for those shaky lower floors.

[–] schwim@piefed.zip -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

As a 50+ yo that cut contact with his parents decades ago, I know that you can most definitely move out. I am aware that many of my negative behaviors were formed in my early years due in large part to my upbringing but there came a point in my life where I was aware they were due in totality to me choosing to continue those behaviors. Although I will never be confused with a saint, I'm a much better person and my choices in how I behave have absolutely nothing to do with my upbringing. The old building with the bad foundation hasn't been part of my life for decades.

The analogy is the embodiment of victim mentality, meant to help a person feel powerless regarding why they make poor choices. Staying in that building is a choice each person makes. It's not a prison.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 58 minutes ago

You can find new role models, you can build new supports for those weaker floors and maybe even completely renovate some of them with enough work. You can theorize the new floors you want to build and rework your existing floors to get there.

[–] aln@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Moving out? In this economy???

[–] Planchette_Phantom@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Honestly, this is very validating to hear since I'm about to cut contact with my mother and elder siblings.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 3 points 47 minutes ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago) (1 children)

I read a book about cutting ties to toxic people. I wrote a list and included my parents. Absolute night and day on my mental health and my professional health.

I didn't "cut them" like full on ghosting. But keeping my distance and chatting with them once a year.

I'm rooting for your success.

[–] Planchette_Phantom@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 minutes ago

Thank you :). I'm living in an emergency shelter, so I appreciate all the support.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Thats a hard decision to make, congrats on having the courage to take that step in your life.

[–] Planchette_Phantom@lemmy.zip 0 points 12 minutes ago

Thanks! I ended up homeless twice because of them. Once at 19, and now again at 22 years old. I mean, I'm in a nice emergency shelter with my own bedroom and cooked meals, but still.

At least my family cares if I have a roof over my head, even if I had to couch surf at a friend's house and hide from the landlord and then come into this shelter again (they gave me a place last time, too). I slept in the basement during the last night before coming to this shelter again, just to take extra precautions.

Mind you, I'm not a criminal beyond jaywalking and streaming media for free. Not to toot my own horn, but I'm one of the most straitlaced people at this place. I don't smoke/vape (beyond the once in a blue moon hit of weed), I don't drink alcohol, no other drugs, I don't drink coffee, no energy drinks, and I'm not known for getting into fights.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

So you don't understand metaphor?

Go on then - "move out" and build a new society... Whilst you're at it, stop aging or "moving up floors".

Fucking how are people so munted they don't understand metaphor?

[–] schwim@piefed.zip -2 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

That reads like you most often breathe through your mouth.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 4 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)

Believe it or not, some people can read and write without having to mouth the words.

[–] schwim@piefed.zip -2 points 52 minutes ago (1 children)

Ooh and you downvote, what a chad!

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 points 19 minutes ago* (last edited 19 minutes ago) (1 children)
[–] schwim@piefed.zip 1 points 17 minutes ago
[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Exactly. If you're 12 and you can't legally be employed and independent, you can very much blame your parents for a lot of your circumstances. As you age this gets less relevant. I have a couple friends in their 30s whom live at home and never really had jobs or finished school. A lot of them still blame their upbringing which could have put them on this path, but at this point the path they continue to walk is their responsibility. Its gonna be hard, its gonna suck sometimes, you're gonna have to take risks and things might get worse before they get better, but taking your own responsibility for it is often your best course of action.

Sometimes being able to blame yourself for certain things is good, it can help you grow and learn. If your parents have failed you for 30 years, why are you still banking on them as part of your plan? Not to say you have to abandon them full stop, they may still be worth keeping in your life but you have to start directing your own life and taking your own responsibility for it.

Maybe your parents didn't care enough about school when you were a kid, as an adult its time to take that into your own hands, many places offer free high school equivalence programs to catch up and often help get you employed afterwards. It might be a shitty job, but its not their fault you waited til 30 to start and now have no relevant skills or experience to advertise. Work that shitty job for a few months and at least it becomes a point on your resume for the next job. It can let you develop universal skills like time management and meal planning which can better prepare you for future positions.

I can't blame you if you didn't get a head start, but i can blame you if you don't even participate in the game.

[–] amlor@piefed.social 1 points 23 minutes ago (1 children)

You can stop blaming them if they are dead or no-contact, sure

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 3 points 15 minutes ago

Their choice still leave last effects, not just on you, but on society. I mean boomers tend to vote a certain way. Generational issues tend to cause the "bad foundation".

[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 1 points 27 minutes ago

But you need sort your brain until development is thru, 39 years old.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

That’s sure one way to sit in a chair lol

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 3 points 49 minutes ago

I mean by this logic, they can blame the parents for teaching them to sit like that?

[–] raman_klogius@ani.social 3 points 40 minutes ago

Next thing you know you're noticing his elbows!